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Old 09-13-2000, 02:08 PM
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Neutering before Personal Proteccion Training??

I just went with my 15 months old to a trainer to ask him if it is possible to make him a Personal Protecction Dog. He told me that it is possible but it is better to neuter him before the training because Rottweilers are very aggressive when going in Proteccion Training not neutered. Can anyone confirm this for me??
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Old 09-13-2000, 04:23 PM
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The aggression level of any dog is based upon the genetic makeup of the dog, coupled with the competitency of the trainer. I question why a trainer would want to take any steps at calming a dog that is to undergo protection training.

There has been much written about Personal Protection dogs. For them to do their job, correctly, requires courage & hardness far above what the average rotty would possess. I seriously question the thinking behind trying to calm a dog that is tasked with protecting your life.

In my opinion, your dog is too young to undergo PP training, unless the schedule starts with sport (Prey) work, and builds up to PP exercises after about a year.
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Old 09-13-2000, 04:33 PM
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Farra, I suggest you look around a little more for trainers.
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Old 09-13-2000, 05:13 PM
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Run from that guy!
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Old 09-13-2000, 08:14 PM
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I would also add that the presence of testorone contributes to maturation, both physical and mental and I would think be counter to PP training when done at such a young age.
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Old 09-13-2000, 09:25 PM
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I agree with all the replies, particularly the above one from Judy W.
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Old 09-14-2000, 12:34 AM
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what is prey work? that czechrott mentioned, how do you perform such excercises? I have been getting grizz involved in as many games tricks and routines as possible lately, tracking treats,chasing stuffed animals, learning new tricks, swimming and runnings, soccer prey work sounds exciting
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Old 09-14-2000, 12:35 AM
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I to agree with the above replies. I would also cast serious aspertions on this trainers knowledge if this is what he says.

Mick.
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Old 09-14-2000, 01:14 AM
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I suspect that the trainer is afraid of the Rottweilers and probably thinks that a dog neutered young would be less of a threat to him. Well, that's most likely true, however if he is afraid he shouldn't be in the PP training business. Waaaaay back when, very few of the helpers wanted to work the Rottweilers. I can but speculate why. That has changed on the sport field for the most part and thank goodness.
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Old 09-14-2000, 01:41 AM
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Czechrott said ...

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There has been much written about Personal Protection dogs. For them to do their job, correctly, requires courage & hardness far above what the average rotty would possess.
Does that mean that rotties don't make good pp dogs?
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Old 09-14-2000, 08:03 AM
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Thank you very much for all the replies!!! I am pleasantly surprised by all the replies of you guys!! Thank you very much.
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Old 09-14-2000, 09:05 AM
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... Does that mean that rotties don't make good pp dogs?
Far from it! It means that not ALL Rottweilers QUALIFY to do personal protection work. It requires a special kind of Rottweiler (I call it: well-bred), because just ANY Rottweiler won't do. http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/wink.gif

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Old 09-15-2000, 09:33 AM
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The "Prey" work is bitework based upon the dogs instinct to hunt & capture prey. The "Helper" must be very animated, and tease the dog with the sleeve, using side to side movement. The bites that are fed to the dog are not direct, but allow the dog to "Chase" down the sleeve, and bite it.

This method usually produces high drives with no stress. This technique allows for targeting and grip developement.

A well bred Rotty would be my first choice for this kind of work, of course http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/smile.gif
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