Austrian Rotties?

[Rottyfan]

I have had read some the articles from some working dog web and they all stated Austrian Army Rotties are considered 1 of the best working Rotties and also do have the some the best working bloodline in the world. Is that true? Cuz it is not the 1st time I have seen such comments. It also said that Austrian have most hardest Rotties too.
Whats so special about Austrian Rotties? Is it the breeding program or what?

[frontierrots]

There are Austrian bred Rottweilers and then there are Austrian Military bred Rottweilers.
Which was the article talking about?

Austrian military Rottweilers would be different than Rottweilers bred by regular Austrian breeders

[Rottyfan]

There were Austrian Military bred Rottweilers.
They claim those dogs are much more harder than the average dogs include dogsports dog.

[frontierrots]

Bostonrott will be able to answer this question in great detail. BUT I can tell you that the Austrian military dogs- in general- have very sound minds and bodies and are very stable dogs

[Mick Trainer]

I seek to have as much Austrian Military bloodlines in my kennel as I can for the reasons stated. They are for me the bench mark in working Rottweilers and have consistantly porduced some of the best working Rotts going around and are responsible for the power that our breed has been known for.

Mick.

[Rottyfan]

If they are so well bred and trained then how come they never competing in any working trial?

[angel girl]

Rottyfan,

They probably don't compete because they are used in actual real world. I'd take one in a second, provided they passed the health clearances, because they sure sound like they have proven their temperament and structure. They may not win any conformation shows, but at least they have the body to get the work done.

Even in the US and Canada, military and police dogs don't usually compete in sporting events.

[Mick Trainer]

Rottyfan,

Like angel girl said they are doing the work for real and the breed and train their own dogs for their work. Butdo some research as too how many of the top working producers and perfomers go back to these dogs. It is a massive percentage.

Mick.

[Leader]

So Mick,

Blaze has Austian Army dogs back there somewhere...Not toooo far back!

She's doing okay on the field, too although she is a little behind, given the age at which she's started enjoying the bite work. Oh well, we'll see next time around.:( :D

Leader

[BostonRott]

The active military dogs are tested by the Army,both for physical and mental soundness before being put into use. When the dogs retire, they live with their handler.

The older Austrian Military dogs, when Hans Breuer was still in charge, were excellent. I have heard that in recent years, there are some changes coming about which many are not pleased with, including decreases in temperament.

Filou vd Bleichstrasse was used by the kennel with high success, even though he was not an active military dog. I had the pleasure of spending a week with this wonderful boy, and he was absolutely incredible: gorgeous head, sound & correct structure, impeccable temperament.

I now have two of his great-granddaughters running about, via Stephan v Kaisersteinbruch Mil DH.

Like Mick, I feel this is a very valuable bloodline, and I am very happy to have these girls running about my house. Vikka is Fax v Tengen bred to a Stephan dau. Fax has done exceptionally in trials, including 5th in the DM at the age of 2.5 years!!!!!!! Banja is Froli bred to a Stephan son (littermate to Vikka's mother), and Froli is a grand-dau of the great Pascha. Froli exemplifies her line: high drive, willing to work, not handler-hard.

I look forward in the future to going forward with these two girls (Vikka & Banja) to producing good working dogs who are sound in mind and body, and still look like nice Rottweilers.

As to "the best" ........ it depends what yard stick you're using. Sports are a nice way to demonstrate a dog's drives (and hopefully stability). Active daily work (police, military, SAR) also offers another nice window into a dog's temperament/drive.

[samanthac]

Originally posted by Rottyfan
If they are so well bred and trained then how come they never competing in any working trial?

In addition to what angel girl and Mick Trainer said, may be that they are simply not for your average owner due to the hardness required to do the work they do. Usually these types of dogs are kennel dogs and not in home companions like our dogs. But like others here say, including the VERY lucky Gretchen, I've heard these dogs are very, very stable and very good workers.

[Grave26]

I also have a Frolikind B litter pup named Freya (aka Britta) and she is awesome. I just wish I had more experience training, because I know she has so much potential than I'm able to tap into right now.

I'm away with work for a few more weeks and I miss her... Can't wait to get back working with her.

Thanks Gretchen!

Rob