A Working Rott/a Working Rott/my Kingdom For A Working Rott.

[ROTTSVILLE]

THIS amended FAMOUS quote,
rings true.

What does one have to do to find a working rott in the uk ?

Is this the only country that does not breed working rotts ?

There seems to be a gap-in-the-market.

Now I 'm not saying that I am expecting working rotts to be everywhere, like a massive warehouse called "ROTTS-R-US" !!!

BUT to be unable to find one,
in a country of 60 million,
seems a bit strange.

Maybe the working rotts prefer a sunnier climate,
and so chose to emigrate elsewhere ?

Anyone know of any then please respond,
But I have searched every valley,
climbed every mountain, swam every river,
and still this "magical-beast" eludes me.

Many in the UK,
consider the working rott to be a "mythical-beast",
that lives alongside Unicorns and elves !

;)

[Mick Trainer]

It is very difficult to find a working dog of any breed in England as so few people work their dogs there or understand what a working dog really is. I usually activly stay away from English Rott lines in my pedigree due too their lack of working ability.

If I was you I would be looking to import one from Germany, Belgium, etc. It is your best hope.

Mick.

[ROTTSVILLE]

Mick, thanks for your reply.

If there only were people over here with your knowlege and indepth understanding of this topic.

In the Uk working lines are almost unanimously considered to be undesireable as pets and therefore a danger to their owners.

And that is from the main breeders themselves.

Import does seem the only way forward,
but this path can have many problems, that i have heard of.

Mick do you know of any reputable breeders of working rotts in europe ???

Or am I better of turning my attentions to the gsd, of which it is possible to get from working lines,
how good they are is debateable???

I look forward to your informative reply.

[Judi W]

Well, with the pet passports available now, importing should be much easier.

I don't think the Eastern European countries are included in that passport business, however, if they are, consider something there. I have seen several awesome Rottweilers from that area. Germany is not your only option for finding good character.

[Mick Trainer]

Rottsville,

Yes I know a number of very good european breeders and there are sure to be many more that I do not know. Best thing for you too do is PM me and I will go through some working lines for you so you can start checking for yourself and see what you come up with and I will give advice as too what I think of the mating. Also if you are interested I will steer you towards the good matings that I know of that I would look at myself if I was too be importing.

I can't answer if you are better to go too GSD's. I am sure that you know the temperament differences. There is no question that there are far more working GSD breeders out there who have consistantly produced good working dogs and they can outcross far more than we who produce working Rotts can. I very much wonder as too the future of working Rotts due too the ever strinking gene pool of working dogs around the place. However this may not be a problem too you if you only seek one dog. There are well and truly enough working people in rotts to get one dog here and there. It is harder to look where to outcross too when people are looking top breed. There are well known lines that produce working dogs.

I certainly cannot activly turn you away from GSDs. They have a lot going for them in working temperament and I myself have look at making that switch in the future if I need to too get the temperament I desire in a dog as it is fast fading from the Rottweiler. This is why I started breeding so that I could get the dogs I desire. There are more working GSDs available and if work is your highest contributing factor to getting a dog then the GSD is at the top of the heap. But it is in the other areas that the Rott comes out on top, but this is a decision we all must add up for ourselves.

Anyway like I said PM me and we can talk further.

Mick.

P.S. I am going away next week so if I dont get back to you this week it will be three weeks before I do but dont think I have forgotten you.

[ROTTSVILLE]

Thanks for the replies.

And Mick I have pm'd you,
It took a while but I got there in the end.....ME THINKS ???

What appears to have happened in the Uk,
(and this is only my personal opinion),
Is that when working dogs have been imported from germany many years ago.
It was done with good intentions.
However finding good breed matings,
would naturally be difficult,
and so inferior Rotts were used,
simply because there was nothing else generally to use.

This would have made an "imbalance2 in the pups.
They would have some good genes and some bad,
and not necessarily a balanced dog.
So incidents occurred and it was considered to be dangerous to use working dogs.
When infact it can be dangerous to make a cock-tail using a working dog v a typical uk dog of working INABILITY !
So Uk breeders have steered clear generally from breeding /importing proven working dogs.

So the working rott breed in the Uk is now "EXTINCT" !
aND i DONT BELIEVE IT'S BECAUSE OF WORKING DOGS THEMSELVES....................R.I.P.....WORKING ROTTS.:(

[Mick Trainer]

Rottsville,

If you are reading this you need to empty your PM box so that I can send you my current reply. You must also empty your sent item box as well.

Mick.

[ROTTSVILLE]

Mick, thanks for the replies.
You are a "mine" of invaluable information.

And i have cleared out my pm's,
so there is space for your latest rendition.
Many thanks mick.
Regards
Rottsville