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Old 12-16-2010, 09:42 PM
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pupil diluted (blue eye) in pup

hi all
just bought 8 weeks old pup full pedigree pure breed only to find on every photo taken of him he has blue eye..
took him to vet and he told me that has diluted pupil and can couse a lot of problems in future..\
then i realize searching photos on net that a lot of pups can have one "blue eye or full blown pupil and my question is does it go away or do i return the pup immediatly to breeder?
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Old 12-17-2010, 12:34 AM
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Re: pupil diluted (blue eye) in pup

What do you mean by a "diluted pupil"?

Do you mean the iris, or the ring of color or the pupil, the black center? Is it blue only when you take a picture, or just to look at it?

What did the vet actually say/diagnose? Cataracts?

Sorry for all the questions but I am not sure what you are describing...
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Old 12-17-2010, 12:42 AM
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Re: pupil diluted (blue eye) in pup

is it the pupil (center) or the iris that is blue? (many 8 week old pups have one or both iris blue or dark grey)

If the iris often the lighter the pups eyes will be as an adult the paler grey blue the eyes will be in a pup (BUT NOT always)

It is also a not infrequent fault that the dog will end up with eye iris colors that don't match each other (ie 1 eye dark brown and 1 light brown)
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Old 12-17-2010, 12:50 AM
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Re: pupil diluted (blue eye) in pup

anisocoria.
lets say in healthy eyes ull have small blue dot in each eye but my apollo has this dot fully blown(better seen in photo then with naked eye)
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anyhowz i have apoitment for specialist but gota wait 2 weeks so wouldnt mind knowing if it is something serious or normal in pups stil in development as he is only 9 weeks
it was also very expensive pup so im bit disapointed to go trough all this even tho breeder offered me money back but no other pups left so i would loose this dog
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Old 12-17-2010, 01:06 AM
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Re: pupil diluted (blue eye) in pup

nah its definitly pupil black small dot is fully blown and better seen on photo but it shows in 'blue due to reflection.dog can see on that eye but it will will efect his vision in future(best case scenario) due to pupil always wide
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Old 12-17-2010, 01:27 AM
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Re: pupil diluted (blue eye) in pup

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diluted in pup 9 weeks
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Old 12-17-2010, 01:29 AM
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Re: pupil diluted (blue eye) in pup

anisocoria is UNEQUAL size pupils not different color ones and has nothing to do with blue and would have been noticed when the pup had it's health certificate exam
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Re: pupil diluted (blue eye) in pup

Are you sure your vet didn't say a dilated pupil (not diluted)? I would ask the vet for a referral to a canine eye specialist. Vets don't know much about eyes the same as doctors in general practice medicine don't know much about eyes. That's why doctors send us to an eye specialist for eye issues.

My vet messed around with an ulcer in my elderly rescue girl's eye for 4 weeks, including many visits and putting her under a general anesthetic. All to no avail apart from his fees of $1750. He then referred us to a canine eye specialist with whom we had an initial consult and booked her in for surgery the folowing morning. He fixed it in one go with only light sedation and his total fee including the initial visit and the follow up post surgery vist was $780.

The specialist said she was such a calm, compliant dog and she didn't need sedating, she would have coped well with just anesthetic drops. When I picked her up 4 hours after surgery he laughed and said the sedation was for my benefit. I was nervous and requested sedation for her.

I've learned my lesson with eyes. If there's a problem with my dogs eyes I consult with my vet and if it's not something that can be easily fixed with drops I ask for a referral.
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Old 12-17-2010, 04:37 PM
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Re: pupil diluted (blue eye) in pup

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anisocoria is UNEQUAL size pupils not different color ones and has nothing to do with blue and would have been noticed when the pup had it's health certificate exam
I think the blue is just a reflection when taking pictures, a way to "show" the issue. Looking at the pictures, it is very clear that the pupil of one eye is MUCH larger than the other.

To the OP, I would definitely take Anne's advice and go to an opthamologist for any and all treatments, and to DEFINATELY contact your breeder. If your breeder is an honorable one, they will likely help with the costs of treatment, if any, and at the very least need to know about this for future reference and breeding decisions.
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anisocoria is UNEQUAL size pupils not different color ones and has nothing to do with blue and would have been noticed when the pup had it's health certificate exam
The pupils definitely look to be clearly unequal in size. That's why we see a clear blue reflection in the larger pupil whereas the other eye looks normal. It's not just light reflection from the camera.

Please take this gorgeous puppy to a canine eye specialist. The sooner the better. Canine opthalmologists know their stuff. If it's fixable they have the knowledge and experience to fix it. Don't settle for the the opinion of the local vet because really, as my experience proved, vets don't know much about eyes.
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Old 12-17-2010, 08:35 PM
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Re: pupil diluted (blue eye) in pup

regardless of if the OP meant dilute or dilated, one would sure hope that the vet who did it's pre sale health exam would have noticed and made a note. I'd be really angry if not
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