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Old 03-04-2010, 09:40 AM
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Question Anterior Cruciate Ligament

Well, Jayde is going to be 7 in July, so I shouldn't be surprised that she has torn her ACL, but really I am. I can't believe how time has passed! I threw a ball one day in the fall for her and I seen her ass end move faster then her back leg, she whined. I had thought that she had a soft tissue problem and that it would heal, but 5 weeks later she is still limping.
To make a long story short, we took her to the vet, she has a cyst on her thigh and the vet thought that a biopsy would be best to start out with, turned out that it is not an issue, they suggested an ex-ray. We opted out and went to a farm vet close to our city. Right away the doc had mentioned that she had a couple of Rotties and they both have had problems with their ACL's, surgery is definitly an option, however, We are at a standpoint with this descision given her age. She is super healthy and there never has been any other health issues. Please someone help with advice as I really don't have the money to have this surgery right away, will it be terrible if we have to wait for a couple of months, will it do more damage? She is fine with being a couch potatoe for a bit, but holy cow I don't want to be the cause of more damage. The doc gave her Rimadyl and I have found quite a few people are saying this is a bad drug, is there anything else I can give her or try. I feel awful for my baby.
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:07 AM
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Re: Anterior Cruciate Ligament

hi my missy (nearly 2) ruptured both her cuciates in november it wasnt obvious at first and the vet recommended a month of conservative treatment (rest) and when she hadnt improved enough we went to the specialist who confirmed they had both gone we have in jan just had TTA on the right which had the most movement in and are scheduled for the left in a weeks time. Sorry to waffle what i was trying to say was the vet saw no problem in waiting 4 months to do this leg so i would take his advice, but my baby is just that and is no age at all xx good luck in your decisions its tough to make but the surgery isnt anywhere near as bad as u think xxx
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:08 AM
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Re: Anterior Cruciate Ligament

Dang, I am so sorry to hear you are dealing with this. It sure isn't fun to see these guys in pain.

When we took in Lou his cruciate was already torn and his previous owners had let it go for about 4-5 months. He was so obese we waited about a month and a half before surgery.

Vet put Lou on Deramaxx and and Tramadol. The Deramaxx was expensive so we changed that to piroxicam.

The Tramadol and Piroxicam were also the two pain killers prescribed after surgery. I was very happy with the way they worked.

As far as surgery. I know expense is a concern. Lou had the TTA and it cost about 1800.00. Prices for the TTA and TPLO ranged to upwards of 3500.00 around here and some people on the board have stated around 5000.00.

Since your girl is 7 how active is she? There is the traditional option, that while not as recommended in larger dogs it will still do the job and is a fraction of the cost. Maybe that would be an option.

Honestly, because Lou had to wait so long his leg had atrophied so bad there was no muscle at all. You could literally feel your fingers if you put them on both sides of his leg. I think because of this it did take him a bit longer to heal.

If there any way your vet would do payments? Many on here have also recommended care credit. CareCredit® Healthcare Finance - Payment Plans and Financing for Cosmetic Surgery, Dental, Vision, Hearing, Veterinary & Other Medical Procedures It is allowed for animals as well as people.

Good luck and let us know how it works out.

Oh and do a search on cruciate, TTA, TPLO, traditional repair. It will bring up some great threads on cost, difference in types of surgerys and what to expect.

**We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals. Immanuel Kant
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Old 03-04-2010, 02:47 PM
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Re: Anterior Cruciate Ligament

Thanks for the information Kat031181, you can waffle anytime you want afterall that's really what we are here Sorry to hear about your Missy, but she is so young and there would definitly be no questions as to have the surgery or not at that age, I wish you all the luck in the world, it's really tough to see our babies in that state. I appreciate your input Harleychik66, I am based in Canada so the site you gave is of no help to me, although I really do thank you for it. I have done research on TTA, as well as TPLO and they sound equally beneficial in certain cases. It's really not about the money, more Jayde's age than anything, but I have seen some severe cases and just don't want that to happen to her. Before this happened she was very active, 2 walks a day in off leash and usually a trip to the store on leash, but now we don't feel that she can handle as much so we only take her to the off leash 2 times a week.
Thanks again for all your advice and information!
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Old 03-05-2010, 12:16 AM
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Re: Anterior Cruciate Ligament

Hi there,
I went through/am going through a similar situation with Cypress, my rottie-x. She is approx 10 years. She blew her left CCL last year. She is also very active and otherwise totally healthy. I debated for a while, but ended up having a TPLO in April 09. The rationale was that if one leg goes, chances are reasonably high that the other will also go. By having surgery, then at least she would have one stable knee to stand on. The surgery was expensiv, emotionally & physically draining (we are also in canada and the TPLO cost around 4000$ plus pre & post xrays, follow ups, etc). Regardless, she recovered very well and we enjoyed an active summer & fall.
Then in December, her right knee (CCL) went. I still have not made my definate decision but did decide to start with Conservative Management rather than surgery. At this point, her age is the main factor holding me back. I feel that it is just not worth the risk and agony unless she appears to be in loads of pain/discomfort.
We did pretty strict confinement for the first couple months. Now, at three months post injury, she is able to walk probably 20-30 mins consecutively without showing signs of pain/limpting, etc. She is weight bearing (although not equally) on all legs consistently.
So the long and short of it is that the decision is very individual. You may want to think about/assess how stable his/her other knee is. In terms of surgical options, I think there are quite a few people who have had traditional surgeries on large dogs and are happy with the results. Also, with regards to waiting it out - I think one of the biggest risks is the development of arthritis. This will happen with or without surgery mind you, but is a little worse without surgery. You may want to check out the "conservative maangemet" group on yahoo - they have lots of info on how to keep your dog quiet while deailing with a CCL injury.
Good luck to you both!!
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Old 03-05-2010, 03:15 PM
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Re: Anterior Cruciate Ligament

I had a Rottie who had a TTA at 7 yrs old and I was very glad I did it as she had several more pain free years where she could get around.
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Old 03-06-2010, 12:41 PM
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Re: Anterior Cruciate Ligament

From what i have read and heard there is no more damage done (physical wise) from having to wait to get the surgery. she will limp some days more than others if she moves to quick she will whine in pain, but thats about all that will happen. try to keep her as docile as possible ie crate rest, laying next to you where ever you are, avoid walks without helping her support he back end with the use of a sling; i know this is a pain in the but but its best for her.

Raven tore her left ACL at the age of 4 and she just tore her right ACL almost 3 years to the day; the surgeon was impressed with how well the first repair did 3 years after the surgery. my wife was skeptical about doing the surgery at her age, her fear was not the surgery or the length of time we might have left but rather how she would do with the anesthesia. i on the other hand was all for the surgery, after seeing how well she did after her recovery from the first one (she was like a new puppy at 1 year old). so now we are on the recovery phase, 5 weeks 3 days of kennel rest, supporting her back end for bathroom breaks and food/drinks. then onto the 4 weeks of kennel rest and leash breaks. then my favorite part, fun time with little to no kennel rest and no leash back yard potty breaks.

oh i forgot to mention that she had TPLO done on both knees by the same doctor, i didnt care how much it cost, if i had to i would eat romen noodles for a year, just to have the same outcome as we did on the first surgery.

so back to the topic if you have to take your time to get the money, explore all the options, pick what one is best for you and for Jayde (what a pretty name) and listen to the vet/specialist, on the first TPLO the vet (we took raven to initially said that he could do it but he is not that comfortable and recommended a specialist). remember to choose the best option for you and Jayde.
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