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Old 07-10-2006, 01:37 PM
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Bone Cancer

I took my Rottie (over the weekend) to the E.R. for what I thought was either a broken bone in her right hind leg or torn muscle. The vet who examined her checked her over and stated that there were no broken bones, no torn muscles and that she had inflammation in her thigh that gave her the discomfort. Daisy had complete/full range of motion in her leg, however when she walked on it, it obviously was uncomfortable. The vet recommended giving her an injection of pain medication (Torbutrol) and another injection of Dexamethasone (inflammation)...which she did. I was not satisfied and requested that an X-Ray be taken. The vet returned with bad news. The X-Ray showed a major mass on her right pelvic bone (appearing to be bone cancer). Does anyone have any recommendations or any advice?
She gave Daisy 3-4 weeks before she looses all function in her back, right leg. I also had several X-Rays taken of her chest and found several tumors in her chest. I am making Daisy as comfortable as possible, but don't want to give up on her especially if there are other alternatives out there that can give her the quality of life that she deserves. She had several good days this weekend and so far she is doing well today (smiling and running around the yard). My husband and I would be lost without Daisy in our life.
Does anyone have experience in this area?
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Old 07-10-2006, 01:47 PM
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Re: Bone Cancer

I am so sorry to hear this. Am I correct that your Daisy is about 8 years old?
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Old 07-10-2006, 01:54 PM
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Re: Bone Cancer

I am sorry to hear of this diagnosis. Be glad that you went the extra mile and asked for x-rays. Your vet does not seem to be giving you a lot of information on what to do with her, is this correct? You may want to visit another vet for alternate suggestions.

Do a search of the archives here for "bone cancer" or "cancer," you will find many ideas and suggestions.

However, please do remember that her quality of life is what needs to be taken into consideration....do not keep her around just because you and your husband would be lost without her.

There are pain relievers, surgeries, etc. that can be used and done with different types of cancer in different situations. You need to research her type of cancer, see what is best for her considering her age and activity of the cancer and go accordingly.

Above all, her quality of life is first......she should not be living in pain.
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Old 07-10-2006, 01:57 PM
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Re: Bone Cancer

I am sorry to have to say this, but if there are tumors in her lungs, the cancer has spread throughout her body and the battle is already lost. It is all downhill from here.

I speak from experience when I ask you and your family to put your own feelings aside long enough to allow her to go peacefully to the bridge and not suffer any longer. Bone pain is excrutiating and Rottie's are very stoic about revealing it to you, but the pain is there all the same. Once the cancer spreads, she is headed for terrible suffering. The kindest, most loving thing you can do for a dog you love dearly is to hold her in your arms and allow the vet to release her from her pain.

I'm so sorry. I lost my dog to this cancer, too.
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Old 07-10-2006, 02:38 PM
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Re: Bone Cancer

I am so very sorry to hear about Daisy. Unfortunately, cancer takes a lot of our rottie loved ones. I lost a boy 12/01 to OS, I made him as comfortable as possible and when his eyes told me it was time...he left this world for the bridge. Rotties are a very stoic breed. They do not show pain until it is excruciating...and like has already been said, bone cancer is very painful. Since the x-rays have shown tumors, the cancer has spread. I understand the emotional rollercoaster you are experiencing, but it is very important that you remember Daisy's quality of life. She has always been there for you, and now she is counting on you to be there for her. Earlier this year I lost my girl to lymphoma, 2 weeks before her 8th birthday. 1 month after diagnosis, when I looked into her eyes and she said "mom, I can't do this anymore", we let her go to the bridge. This was the most difficult thing I have ever done. Unfortunately, it is a very integral part of loving our rotties. Daisy needs you to be the strong one. She needs you to give her the same unconditional love she has always given you. My thoughts and prayers are with you, as I understand all to well the pain of letting go. God watch over you and bless you.
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Old 07-10-2006, 02:44 PM
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Re: Bone Cancer

I'm so very sorry to hear about poor Daisy. Your family is in my thoughts and prayers.
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Old 07-10-2006, 02:53 PM
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Re: Bone Cancer

I agree with those who say that if the disease has spread as the X-rays show, her time is very limited. And, I've seen with my own eyes, to my everlasting sorrow, how stoic these dogs are. She needs you to be the strong one. To do that, you have to get past that feeling that you will be "lost" without her, and therefore are determined to fix what can't be fixed. It is the hardest, but the most unselfish, thing you will ever do. It is the time when we come the closest to giving our dogs the kind of love they give us.

If the vet is only giving her three to four weeks, DO NOT wait until she reaches the indignity of losing function in that leg. By then, she will also be in great pain, whether she shows it or not. Keeping their dignity intact is SO vital to these dogs. I am so sorry you are going through this.
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Old 07-10-2006, 02:58 PM
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Re: Bone Cancer

Thank you all for your thoughts, opinions and suggestions. They do help.
I certainly will not hesitate to let her cross over the Bridge. I don't like to see anyone suffer. I had to put down my beloved Barney on 9/9/2005. It was a difficult decision to make, but it was done out of love. I will continue to help Daisy for as long as I can and when she is ready, she will let me know. I will enjoy my time with her for as long as I can. Nothing is forever.
Since Daisy was adopted, we are unclear as to how old/young she really is. I am guessing she is anywhere between the age of 8-10.

Thank you again.
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Old 07-10-2006, 03:44 PM
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Re: Bone Cancer

Should I have bloodwork and a biopsy done just to make sure it is bone cancer? The only thing that I had the vet do was X-Rays. I want to make sure I exhausted all of my options.
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Old 07-10-2006, 03:52 PM
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With the results you have been given along with the vet's interpretation of them, I would not pursue a biopsy. Bloodwork is pretty non-traumatic, so if a CHEM panel hasn't been done, that you could do - a high alkaline phosphatase result is indicative of bone cancer.

I did have a needle biopsy done on my Luna, and I will be forever sorry for it, as it wasn't needed. She spent an entire day at the vet's office during the last week of her life so they could do a biopsy and tell me what I had already been told.....again. A needle biopsy is not as benign as it sounds.
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Old 07-10-2006, 04:00 PM
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Re: Bone Cancer

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I would not pursue a biopsy. Bloodwork is pretty non-traumatic, so if a CHEM panel hasn't been done, that you could do - a high alkaline phosphatase result is indicative of bone cancer.
I agree...the Chem panel will tell the vet what he needs to know. Although it sounds like they already have a good idea of the results. We knew by an x-ray and chem panel with our boy. We chose not to do the biopsy and for the same reasons as moondog. I'm glad we didn't do it, it would have been an invasive procedure that would have the same results. Remember, LIVE each day to its fullest. Spend your time together enjoying LIFE. You have a precious gift...unconditional love for each other. Use this time to make treasured memories that will last a lifetime. Take lots of pictures...they will help you through the bad days. You will both be in my thoughts and prayers.
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Old 07-10-2006, 11:32 PM
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Re: Bone Cancer

I am so terribly sorry to hear the that your gal is sick.

I have to agree with the others here. She is past the point of saving here. All the biopsies you can do now would be for YOU and not for her.

It is a terrible decision to have to make, but it is also the single most loving and compassionate gift you can give her in her entire life.

I personally would request a pain med patch and take it one day at a time, and make every day very special. When that joy for life left and that basic dogginess was gone, I would release her to the bridge. Don't hold on too long and make her suffer. It will torment you far worse than anything you can imagine.
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Old 07-11-2006, 11:45 AM
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Re: Bone Cancer

I will definitely NOT pursue a biopsy. I thought that the blood work would be good to determine if it indeed is bone cancer or a tumor that can possibly be removed.
Does anyone know of a GOOD tumor/cancer specialist (experience w/ the breed) in the Pittsburgh, PA area? I am not too happy with my vet. They have not returned my call(s) and I personally don't like to wait...especially when it pertains to my beloved pets. Time is of the escence.
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Old 07-11-2006, 01:53 PM
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Re: Bone Cancer

I am so sorry to have another rottie have this diagnosis.

My thoughts are with you---
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Old 07-15-2006, 08:59 AM
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Re: Bone Cancer

As several have mentioned once the tumors are in the lungs it is considered "terminal" and there are at this time no treatments to help a dog at that stage. Trust me on this, I know A LOT about OS after losing 2 dogs to it and doing a ton of research on it. Get a good pain reliever- Piroxicam is a good one and enjoy whatever time you have left. I know you want to save your dog's life, I was there once and know EXACTLY how you feel. If the tumor was just showing on the limb, I would say FIGHT but lung tumors are terminal. Im sorry, I really am. Lay with her and stroke her ears, rub her tummy, eat icecream with her, take 1000000 pictures, show her how much she means to you and never forget you WILL see her again.
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