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| Cipher has an infection, don't know why It has been unusually warm the last few days. All of the dogs have been inactive. I slept in this morning. When I got up Brady said that Cipher didn't want her breakfast. I wasn't too worried. Figured to see if this continued and maybe call the vet on Monday. Brady kept on commenting on how quiet Cipher was. I told him if he was so concerned, he could take her temperature. He did. It was 104.9. So off to the emergancy vet we went. Our regular vet does the weekend shift at the emergancy clinic. She palpated and said she felt a distended uterus. She said there was a white discharge from her vulva (I haven't seen any). X-rays didn't show the uterus. Only some soft stool in the lower colon (she has had some soft stool) and a very large bladder. I was a little surprised as she peed a long time before we left. They asked for a urine sample and it was very easy to get. The vet came up with three possibilities: pyometra, bladder infection or viral infection. She still doesn't want to eat her kibble. She is drinking a lot and peeing alot. Here are the results of her lab work. Blood: Hematology WBC 36.31 K/uL high, normal (5.50-16.90) LYM 3.31 K/uL normal (.50-4.90) MONO 5.13 K/uL high, normal (.30--2.00) NEU 26.95 K/uL high, normal (2.00-12.00) EOS 0.64 K/uL normal (0.10-1.49) BASO 0.28 K/uL high, normal (0.00-0.10) %LYM 9.1% %MONO 14.1% %NEU 74.2% %EOS 1.8% %BASO 0.8% HCT 31.1 % low, normal (37.0-55.00) RBC 4.85 M/uL low, normal (5.50-8.50) HGB 13.3 g/dL normal (12.0-18.0) RETIC 52.8 K/uL %RETIC 1.1% MCV 64.0 fL normal (60.0-77.0) RDW 17.1% normal (14.7-17.9) MCHC out of reportable range MCH 27.32 pg normal (18.50-30.00) PLT 146 K/uL low, normal (175-500) MPV 14.81 fL PCT 0.2% PDW 16.6% PCV 38%, TP 7.1, Serum- Clear The only thing on the blood chemistry that was out of normal range is ALKP 220 U/L high, normal (23-212) Urnanalysis by free catch Color: yellow Char: si cloudy Gluc: - Bili: - Ketone: - Blood: ++ pH: 7.0 Protein: + Sp. Gr.: 1.005 handwritten additions: Leuko: ++ Epithcleal cells clo (I can make out the rest) WBC 20-40/HPF RBC TNTC Chains rods
__________________ Francis A/C CH "Fizbin", TDX CD PT CS HRDIs HTDIs HTADIIs HTADIg BH TT VX CHIC V2 "Cipher",CDX RE PT OA NAJ JHD CGC RB V1 "Duncan", HSAsd CD RN CX HRDIIIs HRDIIge HTADIIge HTDIsd HTADIsdg TT V |
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| Re: Cipher has an infection, don't know why So what is the plan of attack? Pyo is obviously a VERY serious problem and the differential needs to be made ASAP!!! ![]() Did they try to culture the urine? Did they take a cystocentesis? This will easily rule in/out a bladder infection / UTI. Are they keeping her? Planning on an ultrasound? In all honesty, with that differential in a young, intact bitch I would not leave without an ultrasound of the abd.
__________________ Gretchen Caldwell "I request permission to join the Validity Committee." - Dwight |
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| Re: Cipher has an infection, don't know why Also, are they not worried about where she's losing blood to? Both her RBC and her crit are low. Her Hb is ok, so at least she's still able to easily carry oxygen (and is not in a volemic hypoxia), but I'd be wanting to know where that's going. You list in the urinalysis the RBC as "TNTC." I'd be willing to bet that it reads TMTC - Too Many Too Count. Are you noticing red urine?
__________________ Gretchen Caldwell "I request permission to join the Validity Committee." - Dwight |
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| Re: Cipher has an infection, don't know why I forgot to add that they gave her a shot of ketoprofen. She is on clavamox, 375 mg twice a day for 10 days. The x-rays did not show any obvious uterus between the bladder and intestine. While I was fixing the dogs' dinner, she vomited a large handful of brown stuff. Assuming it was last night's kibble. She did take the clavamox and a little steak. Refused kibble. Cipher is 15 months old in two days.
__________________ Francis A/C CH "Fizbin", TDX CD PT CS HRDIs HTDIs HTADIIs HTADIg BH TT VX CHIC V2 "Cipher",CDX RE PT OA NAJ JHD CGC RB V1 "Duncan", HSAsd CD RN CX HRDIIIs HRDIIge HTADIIge HTDIsd HTADIsdg TT V |
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| Re: Cipher has an infection, don't know why Quote:
The TNTC was handwritten, but it is TNTC. The urine is not red and not overly dark. Brady just took her temperature and it is 97.7. Would the Ketoprofen cause that? I am getting worried again.
__________________ Francis A/C CH "Fizbin", TDX CD PT CS HRDIs HTDIs HTADIIs HTADIg BH TT VX CHIC V2 "Cipher",CDX RE PT OA NAJ JHD CGC RB V1 "Duncan", HSAsd CD RN CX HRDIIIs HRDIIge HTADIIge HTDIsd HTADIsdg TT V |
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| Re: Cipher has an infection, don't know why Years ago my husband's LabX just fell over all weak and staggery. Rushed to vet they did boodwork which was similar to Cipher's, xrayed her abdomen and her uterus looked small She was obviously in dire distress so they gave her a pain killer and a muscle relaxer and kept her. as soon as the relaxer took effect pus poured out of her vulva She had pyo and was on her way to dying; $800+ in emergency surgery and a week at the vet and she recovered and lived to be 18. They said 8 more hours and she'd have been in their crematory Get that girl back to the vet for an ultrasound and further diagnostcs
__________________ Diane - The Dogs of Frontier "Annie" RN "Bill" HICs, TT babies-"Bonnie" & "Itsy" ALWAYS missed VP Darla (SAS) 12/00-2/02 & U-CD Bea CD,RE,TD,CGC,TT 3/03 - 2/08 (bone cancer) |
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| Re: Cipher has an infection, don't know why When was she last in season? Does she have normal cycles or does she short cycle/have extended cycles etc? I too would be extremely concerned about pyo, and would not at all rely on an x-ray to rule out infection. If the vet can FEEL an extended uterus, I'd be asking for at least an ultrasound...
__________________ Becky Giddings HC Elsa CDX HXAsd HTDIIIsd HRDIIIs ATDsd OTDc NA NAJ VX Arnie CD RE HIAsd OTDs BH AD VX Roca CD RE HSAs AXP AJP VX Beck CD RE HXAd HIAs ATDs OTDd BH VX Brev CD RE PT OA OAJ CI V |
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| Re: Cipher has an infection, don't know why Quote:
__________________ Beth and... Blitz (Lakina's Better Be Ready! RA, OA, AXJ, NF, HT, PT, JHD, BST, TR1, BH, TT, CGC, ARC V) & Co. |
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| Re: Cipher has an infection, don't know why Quote:
The x-rays did not show what the vet thought she felt.
__________________ Francis A/C CH "Fizbin", TDX CD PT CS HRDIs HTDIs HTADIIs HTADIg BH TT VX CHIC V2 "Cipher",CDX RE PT OA NAJ JHD CGC RB V1 "Duncan", HSAsd CD RN CX HRDIIIs HRDIIge HTADIIge HTDIsd HTADIsdg TT V |
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| Re: Cipher has an infection, don't know why Xrays do not reliably show soft tissue. Xrays are for bone. They can show some of the more solid organs, and fluid build up in the lungs, but I would not trust an xray to find a pyo.
__________________ Gretchen Caldwell "I request permission to join the Validity Committee." - Dwight |
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| Re: Cipher has an infection, don't know why Given what others have said I would push for further tests. Vets are sometimes likely to take a "wait and see" view rather then order expensive tests. Make sure your vet knows that you want whatever tests they would do on their own dog.
__________________ Heather . Doc - rescued (DOB - July 2004) |
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| Re: Cipher has an infection, don't know why I had to get to work real early so all I did was let her out to go pee. On the way out the door she stuck her nose in her food dish. Brady is staying home. He isn’t feeling great, but normally would go into work, but with Cipher being sick, he is staying home. I almost think he is having sympathy pains. I did talk to the vet late last night. I miss understood her about palpating the uterus. She didn’t think it was distended. She is not ruling out the possibility of pyo, but she doesn’t think it really is. She said to call her today if her temperature doesn’t return to normal or if we do see discharge or smell anything. I just got off the phone with Brady. He took her temperature and it is 100.5. A month ago she had a health cert to go to Canada and her temperature was 100.4 so I think this is normal for her. She would not eat her kibble. She did eat a meals worth of Natural Balance chub. She also had a fairly normal poop. She is also back to taking over Brady’s side of the couch. She jumped up there when he got up to answer the phone. Before she was sleeping on the floor or on the other couch- places she typically doesn’t lay. It might just be one of those things that you just doesn't know why the dog was sick. I am keeping fingers crossed that she doesn't develop pyo. I am feeling a lot more relieved.
__________________ Francis A/C CH "Fizbin", TDX CD PT CS HRDIs HTDIs HTADIIs HTADIg BH TT VX CHIC V2 "Cipher",CDX RE PT OA NAJ JHD CGC RB V1 "Duncan", HSAsd CD RN CX HRDIIIs HRDIIge HTADIIge HTDIsd HTADIsdg TT V |
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