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Old 04-18-2004, 09:04 PM
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has anyone on the forum ever experienced this in there female rotties and what was the best course of action to take to treat it.i have heard baytril is a good medicine to give and i have also heard pinacillian was another.
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Old 04-18-2004, 09:06 PM
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Re: piametra

Best bet is to get her to a vet immediately. Dogs have died from this.

I've never had this problem with a rott but have seen it in other animals I've owned.
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Old 04-18-2004, 09:32 PM
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the dog has already been to the vet and has been put on everything you could think of.the only thing that seems to work is 2 shots of 1.5cc of pencillian a day.the vet says if she goes in heat that she will start draining and will get all the infection out of her.
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Old 04-18-2004, 09:47 PM
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Re: piametra

Why arent you spaying her? Even if you do get it under control THIS time, it can happen again and she can die quickly and painfully. Pyrometra (pyro meaning FIRE) is an extremely dangerous condition. And why are you asking on here for what kind of antibiotics to use?? Didnt your vet suggest something?? I am a bit confused.
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Old 04-18-2004, 10:08 PM
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read the previous post.
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Old 04-18-2004, 10:10 PM
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Re: piametra

I did and i still dont know why you arent not spaying this dog.
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Old 04-18-2004, 10:20 PM
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Re: piametra

A closed pyo can kill and very quickly if this is indeed what your bitch has I would get to another vet quickly. Take her temp also and watch it carefully. Usually a closed (non-draining pyo) requires a spay.
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Old 04-18-2004, 10:32 PM
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Re: piametra

It's Pyometra and valuable bitch or not, you are better off spaying her now or risk losing her later. Rarely and I repeat rarely a bitch can be treated and bred her next heat but then she must be spayed because she will have a repeat. Getting her bred is no guarantee it won't repeat even if she gets bred next heat, then you'd be out stud fee and pups because the infection will kill them

Once a bitch has had pyo, even if you cure it now, she has almost a 100% chance of it repeating her next heat.

If she has a closed pyo (not draining out her vulva) then waiting for her next heat will probably kill her. If your vet TRUELY said to keep her on antibiotics and wait for the heat for it todrain, then you need another vet now

This is a very dangerous and painful condition and it willkill your bitch if the infection is not 100% cured, the only way to do that is by spaying her

I've had two bitches with pyo as well as a client's dog. I've talked to lots of repro people and good vets about this. You don't fool around with pyometra if you care about your bitch at all
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Old 04-18-2004, 10:42 PM
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Re: piametra

I totally agree with frontierrots post! Any dog who has split heat cycles or has had Pyometra already once is at a very much higher risk of getting it again, and it is just not worth the chance. Fix the bitch and count your loses. Don't take a chance at your dogs expense...........

I'm actually confused because most vets I have met or talked with immediately fix a dog with Pyometra.........
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Old 04-18-2004, 10:43 PM
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If the cervix is open, prostaglandin shots can be given for several days to stimulate smooth muscle contractions and drainage. This has to be done in conjunction with the antibiotics (usually a combination since the bacteria is highly resistant). If the treatment is successful you have a reasonable chance of a pregnancy by breeding on the next heat. However, if she does not conceive, or is not bred, the liklihood of another pyometra is high. Without the prostaglandin shots to empty the uterus, antibiotics by themselves are very unlikely to cure pyometra. And since pyo usually develops weeks to months AFTER a heat, waiting for her to come back in heat again is not a viable option - she probably won't live that long.
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Old 04-18-2004, 10:43 PM
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Re: piametra

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........Rarely and I repeat rarely a bitch can be treated and bred her next heat but then she must be spayed because she will have a repeat.
Yeah, that's an understatement. Once it starts it seems to be only a matter of time before it strikes again.

If she is valuable, I would spay her to keep her alive.
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Old 04-18-2004, 11:02 PM
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Re: pyometra

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If the cervix is open, prostaglandin shots can be given for several days to stimulate smooth muscle contractions and drainage. This has to be done in conjunction with the antibiotics (usually a combination since the bacteria is highly resistant). If the treatment is successful you have a reasonable chance of a pregnancy by breeding on the next heat. However, if she does not conceive, or is not bred, the liklihood of another pyometra is high. Without the prostaglandin shots to empty the uterus, antibiotics by themselves are very unlikely to cure pyometra. And since pyo usually develops weeks to months AFTER a heat, waiting for her to come back in heat again is not a viable option - she probably won't live that long.
THANK YOU Mary for your professional confirmation of my experience and research.

Why anyone would want to fool around trying to cure a pyo is beyond me. Then again I'd rather have my bitches spayed and healthy/alive then dead from nasty pyo

My client was actually PO'd we had the bitch spayed. (he signed a medical waiver when she came in to board) she was 9 and he was not planning on breeding, he just did not want A) a spayed animal and B) tospend the $ to save "a 9 year old dog" (he has lots of cash).I could not believe him, he did not hold us at fault but blamed the vet for ptting that kind of money into "a 9 year old" dog He valued his companion of 9 years eh?
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Old 04-19-2004, 09:09 AM
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Re: piametra

I almost lost a young dog to pyometra (not pyrometra..has nothing to do with fire). She had emergency surgery which fortunately saved her life.
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Old 04-19-2004, 09:33 AM
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Re: piametra

I did misspell pyometra and was too lazy to look up the correct spelling! LOL But I bet it FEELS like fire to the poor dog.
My sister's rottie had pyometra and the only option the emergency vet gave her was to spay. this was probably 12 years ago or so.
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Old 04-19-2004, 12:32 PM
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Re: piametra

Have to agree with everyone else here. Sheena was an owner surrender, previous owner didn't tell me she had been treated for pyo, she had a repeat and damn near died. Spaying is probably best for the health of your girl.
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