Sajan's Skin Problem-cont

[spoteet]

Well, Sajan has been of pred for almost 3 weeks now. I stopped his Glyco-Flex and all his supplements too. I was told by people on K9Nutrition that Glyco-flex is a huge allergen in dogs so I thought what the hay, I'd try stopping it. I did start him back on his vit B complex last week and I plan on adding his other major supplements one at a time. So right now all he gets his is vit B, antibiotics and Milk Thistle caps. I even stopped using cheese as training treats since I was told dairy is a big allergen too(he LOVES cheese too :(...)

The result so far......his skin on his neck has not thicken and there are none of the little red bumps he would get there, he has not acquired any additional round scaly sores and the ones he had are healing. His skin is not inflamed either. Before if I stoppped pred, all of these things would happen. I have noticed that as those round scaly sores heal, they are leaving his skin black. His groin area, where most of them were, looks like someone put pokey dots on him.

My plan is to wait the full 6 weeks needed to be off pred before any test can be done and see what I see. If he still appears to have a problem, then we are getting referred to a dermatologist. If he is fine, then yippeeeee.

Thanks for everyone's help and support with this problem :)

[lblax]

sharon what do you feed him??????????? and has anyone considered the chemicals and the amount of time he spends in the water???/

[spoteet]

Originally Posted by lblax

sharon what do you feed him??????????? and has anyone considered the chemicals and the amount of time he spends in the water???/

He is on a raw diet, has been for over a year.

I don't think it's the chemicals in the water since before the first Indy event , he had not been in a pool since last fall and had only been swimming in the lake a couple times this winter. They do use a small amunt of chemicals in the pools but he is not in there for long. He has actually started to improve since he is swimming again but that is probably just a timing coincidence.

[lblax]

Originally Posted by spoteet

He is on a raw diet, has been for over a year.

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how long haas he been having this problem?

[spoteet]

Originally Posted by lblax

how long haas he been having this problem?

The bumps on his neck and thickening on his neck skin started the end of last summer, around August I think.

[LORHEL]

Is this what Makita has??? It sure sounds like it, except for the red bumps part.... the splotchy black spots, on her private area, underneath, the itchy raised crusty white spots, which when scratched by her, turn into staph dermatitis??? I missed the original thread...is this a different thing or does this sound familiar.

The pustules are found on the skin of the dog itself, you have to part the hair to get down to actually see it....

I have her on a shampoo once a month, but I have noticed last nite it is back again, wondering if Sajan also has this??

[lblax]

Originally Posted by spoteet

The bumps on his neck and thickening on his neck skin started the end of last summer, around August I think.

so about 4-5 months into the raw diet then...... maybe the raw diet just isnt for him... why dont you try some california natural lamb and rice and nothing else no supplemants or anything and see what happens.....

[spoteet]

Originally Posted by lblax

so about 4-5 months into the raw diet then...... maybe the raw diet just isnt for him... why dont you try some california natural lamb and rice and nothing else no supplemants or anything and see what happens.....

He is on a raw diet because EVERY kind of dry kibble gives him diarhea and vomiting. I tried everything and nothing but the raw diet stopped the tummy upset.

[spoteet]

Originally Posted by LORHEL

Is this what Makita has??? It sure sounds like it, except for the red bumps part.... the splotchy black spots, on her private area, underneath, the itchy raised crusty white spots, which when scratched by her, turn into staph dermatitis??? I missed the original thread...is this a different thing or does this sound familiar.

The pustules are found on the skin of the dog itself, you have to part the hair to get down to actually see it....

I have her on a shampoo once a month, but I have noticed last nite it is back again, wondering if Sajan also has this??

It sounds similiar but not exactly. His perfectly round scaly sores where not itchy and when I scratched them, they just flaked off. Could be the same. He has a special shampoo too.

[Troy]

You may want to try a fish oil. Omega fatty acids can work...

[mmgy]

This probably doesn't apply to this particular skin issue, but I know a lot of people with dogs that are in the water often, mostly lakes. They like to spray them down with (organic or not) apple cider vinegar after they come out of the water. As one woman tells me, once they dry, they don't smell like salad anymore! :)

[spoteet]

Originally Posted by Troy

You may want to try a fish oil. Omega fatty acids can work...

Thanks. Sajan was on high doses of fish oil and no effect.

[spoteet]

Originally Posted by mmgy

This probably doesn't apply to this particular skin issue, but I know a lot of people with dogs that are in the water often, mostly lakes. They like to spray them down with (organic or not) apple cider vinegar after they come out of the water. As one woman tells me, once they dry, they don't smell like salad anymore! :)

Salad would be better than fish!

[Judy Chrusch]

Sharon it sure sounds like some type of allergy to me and possibly food. Dairy is a big one so yes it's good you stopped that and depending on what you feed in raw could also be the culprit. Who ever thought Czar would be allergic to carrots, pork, flax, kelp and the list goes on, which can be found in one of my threads. So really take a look at his diet bc otherthen that then perhaps it's environmental. Start eliminating one at a time for 2 weeks for each.

I'm with Larry about switching to California Natural Lamb and Rice and it even says on the package about all the studies they've done and that they are finding out all the food allergies dogs are having.

I'm surprised the fish oil hasen't worked. I don't know what kind you tried but why not try Derm Caps, Extra.

Judy

[Ilovemypuppy]

I just want to mention that natural remedies are often slow is showing results that they are so good at producing and you have to give a natural remedy or supplements at least 20 to 30 days to start to see results and often more time.

Many people don't give supplements or remedies enough time or take note of subtle changes that mean the natural remedies are working.

Sharon, you mentioned that there were chemicals used in the water..even if in small amounts, can cause major problems. Those chemicals can get into the system through ingestion, as well as through the skin and into the blood stream and effect the liver. I hope you will keep Sajan on the milk thistle for a full cleanse as stated on the product you are using.

As Judy mentioned, dairy is a major culprit in many allergic reactions in dogs and in humans. That means ANYTHING derived from dairy as well..like cheeses including cottage cheese. That gross string cheese that alot of people use for training..heaven only knows what it's ingredients are, but I am willing to bet there are colorants and preservatives in it (I have never seen the product) but I am guessing it's similar to cheese spreads :(