Women are from Mars

[guberdog]

How do we train our dogs diffently from men? Does this go along with the BOOK? Seems like all the posts separate the genders on the matters of training. We women seem to embrace our Rotties, where the mem seem to want to ignore emotions in the training. (Sorry, being generic) Call me stupid, or blonde, but I'm training Cain slowly, at MY pace, because maybe it's difficult for me to be so hard on him in such a short period of time. We can accomplish the same goal with softness that you guys can with firmness. Don't dish me with this point, but think about it, be honest! They're just very large canines, and I'm scared about the public trying to take my guy away from me. (Moderator, if you need to move my post to the a new whining section, feel free.) I'm just curious about how the girls out feel out there.

[Leahjean]

Guber, I agree with you,I can talk to my pup
and get more results than my son can being gruff with her brother.

I'll take some of that whine too...

Thanks Jean

[WorkinDogz]

Awww I can't really say that male trainers don't embrace the emotional side of dog at all; but I can say women tend to embrace the emotional side TOO MUCH sometimes http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/wink.gif

I might be willing to say women are more patient though http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/biggrin.gif

Rushing through training is just as bad as going too slow.

When I'm training a dog (be it mine or someone elses) it doesn't matter how fast or slow I want to go...the dog decides that.

Some dogs learn very quickly, have no problems with focus or distractions while others you're not just "training" the dog; you're correcting (or trying to) flaws of temperament/character/nerve/behavior along the way. No two dogs are exactly alike http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/biggrin.gif

AS a female trainer...I can say with out a doubt....women make FAR MORE *excuses* for the dogs behavior than men do. http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/wink.gif



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[German Vanegas]

Originally posted by WorkinDogz:
... AS a female trainer...I can say with out a doubt....women make FAR MORE *excuses* for the dogs behavior than men do. http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/wink.gif

kissy, kissy http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/wink.gif

[damp]

I agree with you WorkinDogz, EXCEPT the last paragraph. I can write you a list of 1000 really bad excuses the men are using for their dog’s behavior. They are SO “inventive”, especially when the females have no problem with their dogs. You will for certain score very easy point with this remark http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/biggrin.gif
The American men must be much different from the Danish men.

[Sammie]

I would tend to agree...us men might be a bit driven and goal oriented. I was working with my female rott and training too much, until a very GOOD female trainer :::::clearing throat:::: (WorkinDogz) http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/wink.gif said I was going to put my poor girl in her grave before she was 2. http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/eek.gif http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/smile.gif

Since then...I have made a very thoughtful effort to take my time and let the dog dictate what she is ready for next.

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[ryand]

Originally posted by WorkinDogz:


I might be willing to say women are more patient though http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/biggrin.gif

I have to agree on the patience, I use only positive emotional tactics on my puppy no choke chain yet even, but I sure do get impatient when he doesnt do something when I ask him too! =)

Guess Titus is showing me a thing or two...

[Sammie]

WorkinDogz:

It was the ::::::banging head::::: that got me.... I thought I better stop or you would need to go see a plastic surgeon to fix the bump on your forehead. http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/biggrin.gif http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/biggrin.gif http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/biggrin.gif

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[damp]

OK WorkinDogz, I understand now.
But if the men’s dogs don’t retrieve…. OOOOH, they have been so busy at work, and therefore SOOOOO tired, they have cleaned the house, mowed the lawn, taken care of the kids, visited the old aunt Agate and THEY have had a tummy ache and have not had the time for training, but the dog ALWAYS do a perfect retrieving at home. http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/confused.gif
I sometimes say to the men (if they have sense of humour… it happens) I will be happy to help them if they run out of excuses.
You really don’t know how busy and how much housework the Danish men are doing… http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/rolleyes.gif (if the dogs make mistakes on the training field).
That was what I meant, when saying bad excuses and “inventive”!! http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/wink.gif


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[WorkinDogz]

ROFLMAOOOOO Damp! (Oh you'll RARELY hear an American man use the "housework" excuse..PineSol is criptonite to their species http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/wink.gif )

I have 1 "generic" excuse. All situations...anytime..with any exercise.

"Mein Hund hat das noch nie getan!" (available in T-shirts too..LOL) If you say that with a smile, it's only an "excuse" to go along with the crowd http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/biggrin.gif

[Bucky's Mom]

Translation please? - Lisa (Bucky's Mom)

[LisaS]

Originally posted by damp:
The American men must be much different from the Danish men.

my brother-in-law is Danish - Danish men are different http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/biggrin.gif

[WorkinDogz]

Originally posted by damp:
I agree with you WorkinDogz, EXCEPT the last paragraph. I can write you a list of 1000 really bad excuses the men are using for their dog’s behavior. They are SO “inventive”, especially when the females have no problem with their dogs. You will for certain score very easy point with this remark http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/biggrin.gif
The American men must be much different from the Danish men.

Damp,

I'd really rather hear inventive excuses than "my doggie must have a tummy ache" (because he/she refused to retrieve) or "my baby didn't MEAN to hurt that kitty cat" (when the dogs prey orientation clearly says he not only wanted to hurt the cat; he's looking for another!) Those are the type of "excuses" I'm talking about.. LOL http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/biggrin.gif

German,

No public display of affection please; it's embarrssing! http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/redface.gif

Sammie,

So what finally did it?? http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/biggrin.gif Was it the "sucks to be YOUR dog!" or the " ::::banging head::::: " LMAOOOOO http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/biggrin.gif

Hmmm..are American men different? uhhhh YEAH. LOL

Hey...I thought MEN were from Mars and Women were from VENUS??? Damn. I'm on the wrong planet again. http://www.rottweiler.net/rottie/frown.gif

[Mick Trainer]

I have trained many thousands of dogs now with just as many owners and I can tell you that there may be different problems I get with the sexes but I have as many good and bad owners of each sex. Gender may make us different but being to soft is just as big a problem as being to hard and expecting to much. Clear knowledge and understanding of canine behavior is what makes someone a good handler/owner. Gender for me means nothing.

I find excuses are prevalant on both sides. Women can be to much "oh poor feefee only wants to play" whilst the dog is showing teeth and growling at your dog and men are to ego driven and will make an excuse blaming someone else. "It could not possibly be me it must be ........'s fault".

Mick.

[WorkinDogz]

Originally posted by Bucky's Mom:
Translation please? - Lisa (Bucky's Mom)

It means "My dog never did that before."

(It's a "joke" excuse...of course they've "done that before"...or at least gave some hints they were GOING to...lol)