why connect the two rings on prong?

[jb]

It myths why so many people still use these useless devices you can control a 130 lb rottie with one finger on a head halti.

[WorkinDogz]

When I get a horse I'll use a halter....and when I get a dolphin I'll use a clicker

Fill up that bath tub Czech! The lotto is building again!!! LOL

[Monika Malow]

Thank you for the advise. I too, was only using one ring on the prong collar and found it was almost the same as using the choke chain. The people working at these pet stores should be taught how their equiptment works-nothing like giving out the wrong info.

[WorkinDogz]

I always said that prong collars should come with an instruction manual and sold "from a display case" NOT just hanging with the leashes.

They don't take a lot of skill to use...once you find out how to use it correctly.

You'd be amazed the number of dogs running around with a prong collar hanging down to their chest. ::::sigh:::::

[BostonRott]

But Workin',
I like the jingly sound my older girl makes as she trots around with her pointy collar. This isn't right??????

I remember my first dog, my 4yr old male. I got the prong collar on him (by sliding it over his head like a fursaver....all links in, he was about 6mos). Went on no problem, but damn was it big. Getting it off over his head was sure interesting. Later on I figured out that it opened. (Yes, I'm blonde).

Prong collars should only be sold by people who are trained to understand them. They're fantastic, but so mis-used (as is electricity). Any good tool in the hands of a fewl (or a blonde) can be really dangerous!

[WorkinDogz]

Boston---

ROFLMAOOOOOO over the head links and all...oh I'm just cracking up over here!!

I would have done the same thing (light brown hair) but I had the TD with me when I bought my first prong collar 10 yrs ago. LOL (See what a couple of shades darker does for ya...LOL)

[Vicki]

It is so sad to recount the number of large dogs, including Rottweilers, whose owners have outfitted them with some sort of strangulation collar which the owner obviously is too dimwitted to understand. I'm sure the dogs suffering all the attendant neck damage don't think it quite so funny.

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[Monika Malow]

I was told there is NO neck damage with the prong collar. The one that does the damage is the choke chain! I also like the halti but get asked sooooo many times why my dog has to wear a muzzle- Is it vicious?? No one has asked about the prong collar and it gives me a good amount of control.

[valdes43]

The prong collar is a great training tool if used properly.

Dogs have very strong necks. Their necks also do not contain massive amounts of nerve endings. I have read that if you pinch the skin on your elbow this is very similar as to what the dog feels.

I, myself would also rather use a prong collar by far than a choker.

[valdes43]

k&s,

A halti can definitely be a training tool. I've used one before and have experienced just how easy it is to walk a dog with it on. I prefer to leash train with a prong (and if i catch em' young a buckle collar) but I'm sure with lots of consistancy you would be able to train a dog not to pull with a halti. A dog (especially a strong one) will always throw in subtle challenges to see where you stand.

[ChuckCavin]

I'm glad k&s asked this question. For the past week, I too had only the swivel ring connected. When I bought the collar, I was amazed that something so potentially powerful did not come with a simply diagram and instructions (or a web address with those).

[LisaS]

I would think the problem with the halti would be weaning off the halti onto a conventional collar -

[valdes43]

Originally posted by LisaS:
I would think the problem with the halti would be weaning off the halti onto a conventional collar -

This is true. Dogs can get collar smart. This is why you have to consistantly use that halti for months until the no-pulling response is conditioned to the point the "no-pulling" command acts as the actual correction. Again this is lots of consistancy.

I can see how the prong is a training tool. When I use it I know my dog is learning he will be corrected for doing something wrong (pulling) and will be praised for doing something the right way (walking easy).

Is the halti also a training tool (i.e. does the dog actually learn not to pull) or must the halti be used all the time otherwise the dog will likely pull?

[hodomu]

I would like to ask, what is the correct age to start using a prong collar? My female puppy is 12wks at this time. She does well on the leash, but now she is used to it, she wants to pull, she's very sensitive to voice corrections, & a gentle girl, I don't want to be severe with her. My GS male was 2mths older than her when I got him & was already started on a choke chain, but that was almost 8yrs ago. I have since learned that a choke chain can cause tracheal damage, so do not want to use this. Thank you for any help you can give me

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