Electronic Collars Great Results

05EVOMR · #1 09-19-2005, 11:29 AM

I Know Some Or Most People Here Don't Like To Use This Device But I Did And Here Is What Happened.

We Have A 6 Month Old Female And Two Weeks Ago I Purchased The Dogtra Remote Training Collar.

For The First 4 Days All We Did Was Place The Collar Around Her Neck And Remove It A Couple Hours Later Until She Felt Comfortable Wearing The Collar.

The Day I Started Using The Collar She Also Was Wearing Her Leash And I Started Off Like This-
First She Started In The Sit Position And I Immediately Started Walking And Pulled On The Leash And Also Pressed The Nick Button At The Same Time Saying The Word Come, She Was Like What's This (The Setting Was On Between 15-20)
I Kept On Doing This For About An Hour Also Using The Heel Command And Sit Command.
By The Way You Almost Don't Even Feel The 15-20 Setting, I Tried It On Myself And It Feels Like A Small Tap.
We Are Now On The First Week Using The E-Collar And Let Me Tell You Something DAISY HAS TURNED INTO ONE OF THE MOST SMART DOGS ANTONE HAS EVER SEEN FOR HER AGE, At Puppy School The Trainer Said She Looks Like She Was Trained In Another By A Professional, She Does Not Wear The E-Collar Anymore And Yesterday Sunday Morning I Took Her To A Very Busy Street In Downtown Newark, NJ And She Walked Without A Leash (Keep In Mind She Is Only 6 Months Old) There Were People Walking By, Cars Flying By And Nothing She Only Stayed By My Side, At Times I Would Make Her Sit And Stay, Then Walk Away Around 40 Feet Wait About 2 Minutes And Then Give The Come Command, She Did Not Even Move When People Were Walking By Her When Sitting.
Last Night I Took Daisy Around The My Block Two Times Without A Leash, There Were Cars Going By, People Walking By With Kids, Also Several People Walking Their Dogs On Leashes, Daisy Thought About Jumping On Everyone But When I Said No She Would Stop In Her Tracks.
And All This Without A Leash And No More E-Collar.
Let Me Tell You That The E-Collar Is The Best Investment That You Can Ever Buy, It Will Make Your Dog Obey Like Never Before As Long As Their Is Love And Rewards When You Train.
This Morning I Took Her Out For Her Morning Walk Without A Leash And She Behaved Like A Mature We'll Behaved Dog.

Karyn · #2 09-19-2005, 11:35 AM

Glad to hear of your success. When I adopted Winston he would jump my fence and chase SUVS, cars, bicycles etc. It was dangerous and I needed something to fix it. The dogtra worked. Within 48 hours he was not attacking and trying to jump the fence. I truly believe it probably saved his life.

05EVOMR · #3 09-19-2005, 11:43 AM

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Glad to hear of your success. When I adopted Winston he would jump my fence and chase SUVS, cars, bicycles etc. It was dangerous and I needed something to fix it. The dogtra worked. Within 48 hours he was not attacking and trying to jump the fence. I truly believe it probably saved his life.

Yes it is amazing how fast they turn around and become a calm we'll mannered pet, I still can't believe it’s the same dog almost overnight she changed.
Two Thumbs Up For The E-Collar If Used Correctly.

Judi W · #4 09-19-2005, 11:46 AM

Doesn't Newark have a leash law? If not, it will be one of the very few metro areas that does not. I would suggest you save your showing off of the training for the training field where the pup is not likely to get killed should something go awry.

Karyn · #5 09-19-2005, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Judi W

Doesn't Newark have a leash law? If not, it will be one of the very few metro areas that does not. I would suggest you save your showing off of the training for the training field where the pup is not likely to get killed should something go awry.

Once again, Judy' advice is sterling!!!! Never trust anything 100%. Please put the leash on when walking in public.

Judi W · #6 09-19-2005, 07:04 PM

So, 05, tell us about your dog. Is it a Rottweiler? How long have you had her? Is she spayed and for companion only or do you plan on competing with her? If so in what venue?

Stubby · #7 09-19-2005, 10:08 PM

I'd like to know why you felt an e-collar necessary to use on a 6 month old puppy??

moondog · #8 09-19-2005, 10:45 PM

And I'd like to know why you consider it a good thing to compel a 6 month old puppy into adult behavior. You may think it makes your puppy look smarter, but your dog isn't being taught to think, she's just being taught to comply, no questions allowed. Not the way I'd choose to raise a puppy.

poohbearsmom · #9 09-20-2005, 08:05 AM

An hour training session with a 6month old pup using an ecollar with no parental supervision? I'm surprised the puppy's head didn't burst in to flames.

Some people will sell ANYONE a dog. Sigh.

AZBRAT · #10 09-20-2005, 04:35 PM

I agree, poohbearsmom, an hour of training for a six month old pup is a LOT even without the ecollar!

MonteRiehl · #11 09-20-2005, 05:10 PM

Hmm, Yes, I agree that an e-collar is a great tool if used correctly.

I have not read the manual for the dogtra products, but I have read the innotek, and watched a few videos. The instructions for the Innotek e-collars do not recommend that the e-collar take the place of primary collar training. (choke, prong, etc). Dogtra's website, first page says "Your dog must fully understand the obedience commands (sit, stay, here, heel, and kennel) before using the e-collar for reinforcement of these command"

This is very clear language. The dog *MUST* know their commands very well before you start introduce them to a e-collar correction. This is pretty important instruction for a novice. Please make sure you are following all the instructions in the literature that came with your collar. No shortcuts please, it's for your own and your dog's own safety and wellbeing.

The process/thought process of knowing EXACTLY what you are teaching is more important than the tool you use. Most people teaching a novice how to use a e-collar will make 100% certain that you first are able to train a dog using traditional methods first. Without proper knowledge, you really wreck a dog. This is true regardless of the tool.

I am a little concerned about your OP. It's a great thing to be teaching OB to a 6 month old puppy. However, it's unreasonable to expect 100% perfect behaviour at this age. 6 month old puppies need to act like 6 month old puppies. It is possible to induce a condition called 'learned helplessness' when you impose a unreasonable standard of behaviour on a puppy. It's a good thing to be aware of.

I also personally would not use the ecollar as the primary training collar at this point. I'd focus more on the traditional training/teaching collars, and learn how to use them very well, it's more about knowing what you are doing than the tool you use.

I started using a ecollar when teaching my S'dragon open obedience and field work. Having taught other dogs "open work" previously, I can use the tool to advantage. Knowing some of the dangers of ecollars, I would not ever use it without having first trained traditional methods.

Mainly I use my ecollar on myself. I have a muscle that "triggers" in my back, and it works great to release it. I get my wife to put it on the tight muscle, and keep giving me a good strong 50-70% full power. Feels great to relieve a tight back. Unfortunately, since I drain it on myself, S'dragon is not getting all the open work he would like.

gomer9855 · #12 09-20-2005, 06:02 PM

I bought an ecollar for Frau once. She was very lazy about her recalls in open fields. So I thought a good zap would get her attention. I tested it on myself though. After the screaming stopped I took it back to the store.

rottnelmo · #13 09-20-2005, 06:39 PM

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