Which type of collar to use while on leash outside

[Princess8478]

I have a 2 year old Male Rott who only weighs about 95 lbs. or so. I put both my Rotts outside on long leashes for about 1 hour or so a day. My female will pull and get excited when people walk by (especially another dog) but she has never broken a choke color or standard color (leather, nylon, etc.) and seems to relax outside by laying down and staying relatively calm. My boy, however, has broken: 2 choke colors (busted one of the chains and stretched out the loop on the other), 3 nylon collars (they were wolf-size Lupine colors which thick plastic clips; he snapped the clasps/clips) and 2 leather colors (he stretched out the leather by the belt-like loop and snapped the other one). What do I do???!!! He has no regard for how hard he pulls while outside. Nothing phases him. How thick of a collar must I buy? Any suggestions on correcting this behavior, or finding a better collar?

Thank you!

[sophie's-mom]

Originally Posted by Princess8478

What do I do???!!!

you could try NOT leaving him outside tied out by himself!!

You should be with him.

Next time he breaks a COLLAR (not color; that would be red, blue, purple, green) he might just BITE someone and then you wouldn't have to worry about the collar because he will be put down. OR, he might break free and get hit by a car.

OR, you could just take him for a WALK and correct him when he acts the @$$ and then your problem is solved.

[Bucky's Mom]

Originally Posted by Princess8478

. I put both my Rotts outside on long leashes for about 1 hour or so a day.

Are you outside with them during this time?

If not..................................

This is a bad idea for many reasons.

There are many threads on the forum about tie outs and why it is discouraged.

[Bucky's Mom]

Just to get you started here is a link to a tie out discussion

http://www.rottweiler.net/forums/sho...ght=tieing+dog

[Patty1231]

No collar is appropriate for this situation. Either your yard needs to be fenced in or you need to build a kennel. Otherwise, you must stay outside with the dogs. Buckle and snap collars can break too easily and training collars (choke or prong) should never be left on an unattended dog due to the possibility of serious injury if caught on something.

[Princess8478]

Originally Posted by sophie's-mom

you could try NOT leaving him outside tied out by himself!!

You should be with him.

Next time he breaks a COLLAR (not color; that would be red, blue, purple, green) he might just BITE someone and then you wouldn't have to worry about the collar because he will be put down. OR, he might break free and get hit by a car.

OR, you could just take him for a WALK and correct him when he acts the @$$ and then your problem is solved.

[quote=sophie's-mom]you could try NOT leaving him outside tied out by himself!!


First of all, Sophie's Mom, what's with the hostile response?!?! Spelling errors can happen and I really don't think it had anything to do with my post. Not only that, I am looking for an opinion and would think that something constructive (with less attitude) would be much better! Don't you?

Second, biting...yes, I understand that that is a possiblity with ALL dogs. But, again, you are obviously more pessimistic than most. That is something that is always in the back of my mind but nothing that immediately comes to mind when I think of my boy getting loose. (Can't wait for your reply on that one.) Getting hit is also a HUGE concern of mine, but again, I am looking for options/alternatives to keeping my dog happy on a run for a little while. My dogs are put out together and I am always home. (No need to defend my position here, but I will, as obviously you are questioning that.) Walking is no problem because I use a Gentle Lead COLLAR. He is very hyper and gets excited when he is outside. And, right now, a fence is not a feasible option right now. Plus, when has it been asinine to put your dogs on a leash/run? Just because I am a Rott owner does not mean my dogs can't enjoy the same luxuries as other dogs. Either way, your response was full of assumptions and quite honestly pretty rude.

For those of you that has constructive suggestions, Thank you! That is what I figured this website was all about.

[sophie's-mom]

not hostile.....just don't understand how you don't see putting your dog, that has already broken 3, excuse me SEVEN collars, on a tie out is a problem and the only solution you're looking for is a stronger collar.

can't help you if all you want to know is how to allow your dog to lunge at passerbys and not break his collar.

and you obviously don't know.

[Princess8478]

Of course I don't want my dog to lunge at passersby!! I want him to be safe and happy. Trying to find a more secure collar is not a bad thing...they wouldn't make them if they weren't necessary. Again, just looking for alternatives and constructive advice. That's why I joined this site. There is a wealth of knowledge that all the Rottweiler owners posess that belong to this site.

I was shocked to read the forum that 'Bucky's Mom' suggested. Again, another curious owner looking for advice and everyone attacks. It makes me wonder why people of that nature own Rott's...they just exaggerate things that much more. (That is a concern of mine.) I am just surprised at some of the responses and huge assumptions that are made. This is not a personal attack...so, I will stop with my opinions and stick to the topic at hand.

Thank you. I will look for something stronger and continue to "watch" my dogs while they enjoy their leashes outside.

[denverday]

I don't see the posts on here or the other thread as attacking.I see a sense of urgency to get you to think of another alternative.If you ask a doctor which cigarette may be better to smoke so that you won't cough when you do.(which some are less on tar) you will be told that the best choice is to stop.
Others are tring to help.Aand I know first hand that tying a dog even for a little while can cause agression.Never mind all the other problems that may arise.So this is all advise. you can take what you want and leave the rest

[spidey]

Plus, when has it been asinine to put your dogs on a leash/run?

Since it became pretty well-known that tying out dogs can lead to aggression and other undesirable problems, look into what almost all humane societies say about this. It's a "luxury" that no dog needs to be subjected to. People aren't attacking you any more than they were attacking the person in the other thread, they're merely advising you of the most current thinking about this topic and suggesting that you find other, safer, more appropriate ways to get your dogs some fresh air. That you choose to take offense at this is unfortunate. Yes, some of us get a little more sarcastic than others, but everyone has the best interests of the dogs at heart, perhaps you might consider that it's not YOU that's being attacked here, it's the practice of tying out dogs which is being attacked.

[rottcrazed]

Okay, here is the long and the short of it:

Your dog has broken through 7 collars already - 5 considered safe collar, 2 which could have choked him to death. He has broken free SEVEN times. What makes you think ANYTHING is going to work? Perhaps logging chain ???

He is a prey driven dog, aggitated by things going past HIS house and yard. He IS going to bite someone, another dog, or get hit by a car. There is nothing you are listening to here.

The dog is the one who is going to pay in the end, as is our breed. Everytime someone walks past your house and sees him go ballistic, it is another person lumping his actions as just 'another one of those terrible Rottweilers'. It hurts all of us who own this breed and are doing our best to change minds about it.

I get that you are trying to do the best thing for your dogs, but we are trying, to no avail, to tell you the best and safest thing you can do for both of your dogs is either fence your yard, build a dog run, or stay outside with them when they are out there and CONTROL your male. There are no other options.
Kristi

[spidey]

In addition to what rottcrazed said, which I completely agree with, I'll also point out that your dog's lack of regard for how hard he pulls on the collar should be evidence enough for you that your dog CANNOT be safely tied out. Even if he doesn't bite someone or get hit by a car, he is clearly willing to pull hard enough to harm himself. This is life-threatening to your dog in more than one way.

[Bucky's Mom]

Originally Posted by Princess8478

I was shocked to read the forum that 'Bucky's Mom' suggested. Again, another curious owner looking for advice and everyone attacks. It makes me wonder why people of that nature own Rott's...they just exaggerate things that much more. (That is a concern of mine.) I am just surprised at some of the responses and huge assumptions that are made. This is not a personal attack...so, I will stop with my opinions and stick to the topic at hand.

Thank you. I will look for something stronger and continue to "watch" my dogs while they enjoy their leashes outside.

I meant no disrespect - I was only trying to show you a previous discussion of dogs on tie outs.

Search more and you will see why this is a heated discussion

[StephanieandToby]

I personally don't have a problem with seeing a dog tied out for one hour per day. The problem is that he can't behave when he is tied out. Even if you decide to keep him inside from now on, you will STILL need to find a collar that can hold him for his walks and training. I also had a dog that broke a collar or two in his day going after squirrels...(before we wised up)
I ended up with a very thick, leather collar. There was a recent thread with pictures of a rotty named Maverick. (picture this section?) In one of the photos he's wearing a great, thick , leather collar. I'd recommend something like that for everyday and possibly a prong-collar for his obedience training.
You can also Google I believe the name is "Blocky Collars? A couple people here have had success with those.

[alexav]

Originally Posted by rottcrazed

Okay, here is the long and the short of it:

Your dog has broken through 7 collars already - 5 considered safe collar, 2 which could have choked him to death. He has broken free SEVEN times. What makes you think ANYTHING is going to work? Perhaps logging chain ???

He is a prey driven dog, aggitated by things going past HIS house and yard. He IS going to bite someone, another dog, or get hit by a car. There is nothing you are listening to here.

The dog is the one who is going to pay in the end, as is our breed. Everytime someone walks past your house and sees him go ballistic, it is another person lumping his actions as just 'another one of those terrible Rottweilers'. It hurts all of us who own this breed and are doing our best to change minds about it.

I get that you are trying to do the best thing for your dogs, but we are trying, to no avail, to tell you the best and safest thing you can do for both of your dogs is either fence your yard, build a dog run, or stay outside with them when they are out there and CONTROL your male. There are no other options.
Kristi

This is the most excellent post I have read on this topic and there are some GOOD ones. I cannot understand how ANYONE could take offense at this good advice.
There is NO good reason to tie up a dog except an emergency situation and even then they should be watched like a hawk.
If they need time outdoors, take them for a walk and take the opportunity to do some training.