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Old 07-30-2005, 11:14 AM
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O.K.then.... I don't understand why you even took the dog in when you knew about all these negative behaviors he obviously was not a candidate for your home, and I don't know where you got him from but any good placement agency would not have let you have this dog with all of his issues, especially biting and you have children in your house. Another thing if you were trying to do good by this dog, keeping him outside does him no justice, he was basically in the same situation he was to begin with. I hope his new owners at least try to correct his problems PHYSICALLY first and then behavior and treat him with at least some dignity!!!
 
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Old 07-30-2005, 11:24 AM
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OH Please!!!!!!!!!! A dog that has been outside tied to a tree covered w/ bites and fleas and very sick and who is CHILD aggressive does NOT need to come in my home w/ my two children. I am sorry that you feel that I shouldnt own a dog. My children do come first above a dog or cat or bird etc. He is no longer with us, because he tried attacking my son while I was out with him and had him on a lead. So we had to look for another home for Simba. Thanks for all your help.
Uhm, I think I am missing something. Was this a foster dog or something? I can't understand why you'd get a dog without first seeing how he was with kids if you have two of your own? And why take a dog that is sick with fleas if you didn't plan on helping the poor thing get better? I am hoping there is more to the story that was left out.

But I suppose it's a moot point since you got rid of it.
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Old 07-30-2005, 11:56 AM
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There is more to the story , but not worth reporting here obviously, w/ all the judgemental people.

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Old 07-30-2005, 12:01 PM
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There is more to the story , but not worth reporting here obviously, w/ all the judgemental people.

Judgemental?? I don't think so! You took on a dog with serious issues that you wanted an easy fix for - we offered help and you didn't like it so we are the judgemental ones? I don't find the people here judgemental at all - WELL INFORMED, been in your shoes and know what you are going through - YES, that's us, but judgemental, I think not.

You now state the dog now has more issues than originally reported - if you had stated that in the original post, we might have been able to offer more CLEAR solutions to the problem.

Obviously you were not open to allowing this dog into your home EVER- ALL dogs shed, dig, pee, poop and do whatever they please - IF ALLOWED TO. Your garden seemed to be more important than the well being of the dog.

That said, I find that dumping the dog on someone else is a rotten thing to do. Did you ensure the new owners were FULLY aware of the issues this dog has (aggression towards humans, digging, severe flea infestation) and are you aware that if you did NOT let these folks know and the dog BITES that YOU can and probably WILL be held liable??
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Old 07-30-2005, 12:12 PM
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There is more to the story , but not worth reporting here obviously, w/ all the judgemental people.

One person made a judgemental comment, a few other questioned you after you wrote the post about not letting the child aggressive, flea ridden, shedding dog in the house. Which made us all wonder - how could it not?

If you would have made a note that a neighbor who didn't want the dog just handed it over to you and you weren't sure you were going to keep it (which I just took the time to do a search on your history) then I'm sure the thread wouldn't have gone done this road.

But you're mad at us for not knowing your history? Oh, not fair.
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Old 07-30-2005, 12:13 PM
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Oops, seems Anne and I were posting at the same time. Sorry for the redundancy.
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Old 07-31-2005, 02:47 AM
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judgemental! I think your mean! I could come up with some worse words but don't think they would be aloud here. Take away the fact YOU DIDN'T give us the FACTS... you take a dog who had an apparently tough, horrible life and from what YOU said and throw him into ANOTHER home, so he is someone else's problem? I hope you told them about his past. If he tried to ATTACK a child and is as pathetic as you described why did you take him in the first place? You attitude and hostility in your posts are very telling. I pray this dog doesn't hurt someone. I agree, there is more to this story. Next time don't ask for help if you can't take a LITTLE heat. Seems to me some posters may have hit a nerve! unwarranted defensiveness usually means you have something your guilty of. JMO.
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Old 07-31-2005, 01:37 PM
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It would be helpful to know how old Simba is to know whether he attempted to "attack" the child in question or if he were playing. There is a big difference, and if you don't KNOW Rotts, then you wouldn't know the difference. Poor Simba seems to have alot of problems and I can only hope and pray that he is with someone who understands the breed and will treat him with the love and respect he so richly deserves. And I hope that you, sir, stick with children, and your yard.
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Old 08-08-2005, 02:58 AM
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OH Please!!!!!!!!!! A dog that has been outside tied to a tree covered w/ bites and fleas and very sick and who is CHILD aggressive does NOT need to come in my home w/ my two children. I am sorry that you feel that I shouldnt own a dog. My children do come first above a dog or cat or bird etc. He is no longer with us, because he tried attacking my son while I was out with him and had him on a lead. So we had to look for another home for Simba. Thanks for all your help.
This is the reason for rotts and other breeds getting a bad name. You should be ashamed of yourself. It's horrible knowing people like you own any animals, and even have kids. It sounds like you only care about yourself. You would also be agressive if you were tied to a tree, sick, infested with flees, and wasn't cared about. Please don't get another animal.
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Old 08-09-2005, 11:16 PM
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AMEN, Asia Daddy!! There are some people who don't deserve the undying love and devotion of a pet, be it dog, cat, bird or whatever. It almost makes you wonder how he's training his children.
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Old 08-10-2005, 01:10 PM
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OH Please!!!!!!!!!! A dog that has been outside tied to a tree covered w/ bites and fleas and very sick and who is CHILD aggressive does NOT need to come in my home w/ my two children. I am sorry that you feel that I shouldnt own a dog. My children do come first above a dog or cat or bird etc. He is no longer with us, because he tried attacking my son while I was out with him and had him on a lead. So we had to look for another home for Simba. Thanks for all your help.
If this is what your dog has become there's no one to blame but the owners...being you and your spouse. You created what your dog became.

I'm BEYOND GLAD that you had to find another home for your dog, his life with you didn't sound pleasant at all. Who would tie their dog to a tree and let their dog just suffer with fleas and bites?! You should be ashamed of yourself, I feel sick after reading your post. HOPEFULLY your dog will find SOME happiness with the rest of his days with a NEW owner. Lets hope the new owners have some respect and a HEART with the dog YOU failed with! You're a cruel, nasty person.

YOU don't deserve a dog. Can we say ANIMAL CRUELTY?!

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Old 08-10-2005, 03:44 PM
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding this, but I was under the impression that this was a dog that she took under her wing because of the treatment it was receiving from the previous owners...

My concern is with bringing an unknown dog home without having it evaluated first, and especially with children in the home. It was dumb luck that the son wasn't injured, and a dog like this certainly needs an evaluation before deciding if it should even go to yet another home.
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Old 08-10-2005, 03:48 PM
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding this, but I was under the impression that this was a dog that she took under her wing because of the treatment it was receiving from the previous owners...

My concern is with bringing an unknown dog home without having it evaluated first, and especially with children in the home. It was dumb luck that the son wasn't injured, and a dog like this certainly needs an evaluation before deciding if it should even go to yet another home.
Yeah sure did come from another home and then she couldn't deal with the dog and dumped him on yet ANOTHER owner. Poor dog, what a life.
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Old 08-10-2005, 03:56 PM
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Yeah sure did come from another home and then she couldn't deal with the dog and dumped him on yet ANOTHER owner. Poor dog, what a life.
Well, it sounds to me like she shouldn't have taken him in the first place because she wasn't prepared to deal with the problems, but from what I understand, she didn't create the problem. If you're going to fault her, it would be for not being prepared to deal with the problems someone else created, and rehoming a dog that has shown aggression without a proper temperament evaluation.

I'm not seeing animal cruelty, I'm seeing a person who was naive enough to try and help a dog without someone knowledgeable helping her.
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Old 08-10-2005, 04:04 PM
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Well, it sounds to me like she shouldn't have taken him in the first place because she wasn't prepared to deal with the problems, but from what I understand, she didn't create the problem. If you're going to fault her, it would be for not being prepared to deal with the problems someone else created, and rehoming a dog that has shown aggression without a proper temperament evaluation.

I'm not seeing animal cruelty, I'm seeing a person who was naive enough to try and help a dog without someone knowledgeable helping her.
OH Please!!!!!!!!!! A dog that has been outside tied to a tree covered w/ bites and fleas and very sick and who is CHILD aggressive does NOT need to come in my home w/ my two children. I am sorry that you feel that I shouldnt own a dog. My children do come first above a dog or cat or bird etc. He is no longer with us, because he tried attacking my son while I was out with him and had him on a lead. So we had to look for another home for Simba. Thanks for all your help.

ummmm, if that doesn't sound like animal cruelty then our personal thresholds are apparently different. Either that or I'm misunderstanding what this women's saying. She made it very clear he's not allowed in her home, is covered in fleas/bites and is child aggressive. Just taking the dog in knowing all of that is cruel. You don't bring in a child aggressive dog when u have 2 kids.
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