how to train rott pup to be obeident not tempermental

[jenny27360]

Originally Posted by poohbearsmom

Thanks for the insight... what temperamental issues did you find out about with Bruce? I have to make a comment about people who would guilt others into taking a pup because death is the alternative for it. I think I can say with a fair amount of confidence that this was not a well planned breeding, for which Bruce has paid the price, one way or another....

Basicly, Jenny, you get back what you put into Bruce. If you treat him gently, he'll return the favor. Set boundaries, ATTEND TRAINING CLASSES often and for a few years, be aware of how fair your expectations are on the dog - are you setting him up for success or failure? Fortify yourself with knowledge - there's plenty of it in black and white - knowledge regarding dog behavior has increased by leaps and bounds in the past 20 years, and especially in the last 10, so take advantage of all that's at your fingertips.

People like me want people like you to succeed with this. So, if you've obtained a pup with questionable temperament (you know the story, we don't), he's young enough to be rehomed in a different situation. If you really are committed to making this work, then commit to it. Above all, people like me want the dog to live a long, happy and secure life, with people who don't stop at just "loving" the dog... but with people who go the extra mile to learn and succeed in making the relationship a safe and rewarding one.

Jean Donaldson has written a couple of books that would be a good start for you - "The Culture Clash" would be an excellent first read.

Good luck, Jenny - keep us posted.

poorbearsmom,

Oh, no he dont show signs temperment. He is a good puppy. He will sit and stop biting me when I tell him no, or I will yelp and he will imeditatly stop.

Im just worried about the kids with him...when he getts older i want to prevent him from biting them. "Turning" on them

Some owners tell me that rotts are the best dosg that you can have and that they are wonderful with childern, whereas others say rotts are not good with childern- "they can't be trusted with children" one owner said.

I guess what it comes down to is- It all depends on how you train the rotts and what Rules you set for your children.

Oh, by the way Bruce is putting his left foot in his water bowl while he gets a drink.

Thanks so much for your advice,

jenny

[Judi W]

The thing that concerns me most is your lack of comfort in having a Rottweiler in your family. In spite of the fact that this little pup has done not one single thing to warrant such concern you want some sort of guarantee that he will never ever hurt one of your children. (dogs do not "turn" by the way) If you are not confident I will repeat, please place the pup in another home where he will be welcomed and not looked upon as some sort of bomb waiting to explode. If you feel trepidation about his breed, that will have a strong effect upon him and you should not keep him. You have received advice and recommendations but repeat your concern. This tells me that you are not convinced and that will have great detrimental influence on the pup and the entire family.

[Lookie]

Can I just say in layman's terms...if you continue to train your puppy into adulthood, it ensures that the dog knows where he stands in the pack (your family) The only time the dog will 'turn', is if it sees an opening to become the leader. And it's not actually turning on you, it's just trying to climb the ranks.

Make sure you greet your kids first ALWAYS when you enter the house. Make sure the kids get through a doorway before your dog, and make the dog sit and wait if you are doing something for your kids. By doing this, your dog understands that the kids come first.

I thought I had Harley in check, but I wasn't doing the above, and she did an air-snap at one of my kids. I went into strict NILIF mode, did consistent twice daily training sessions with her and haven't had a problem since. That's all it is, train train train. They are SO very smart, it really doesn't take them long to see what's up.

[damp]

Originally Posted by Judi W

The thing that concerns me most is your lack of comfort in having a Rottweiler in your family. In spite of the fact that this little pup has done not one single thing to warrant such concern you want some sort of guarantee that he will never ever hurt one of your children. (dogs do not "turn" by the way) If you are not confident I will repeat, please place the pup in another home where he will be welcomed and not looked upon as some sort of bomb waiting to explode. If you feel trepidation about his breed, that will have a strong effect upon him and you should not keep him. You have received advice and recommendations but repeat your concern. This tells me that you are not convinced and that will have great detrimental influence on the pup and the entire family.

That was my first thought and I must say, my thoughts and concerns are confirmed more and more for every new posts by the OP.

[RottyMom]

It would also seem that the history/temperment/health of this pup is unknown. Anyone who is going to dump the pups at a shelter to be put down because they are moving into a new house probably didn't put any thought into these dogs at all. Seems they were just a pain in the butt to be disposed of like some garbage they didn't want to bring with them. Some of us who have rescue dogs know that we are dealing with unknown variables with our dogs and accept the risks and challenges that come with that. You do have alot on your plate at the moment and you do seem to have some trepidation about the breed in general. This might not be the right time or dog for you.

[Christine D]

Our daughter was scared of our pup when we got him. She would jump up on the back of the couch to get away from him trying to nip her pants and hands. We taught her to scream no or down really loud and he would back off and leave her alone. Now they get along great, our daughter loves him now. We also did puppy classes and obedience which I think is really beneficial for puppy and owner.

[jenny27360]

Originally Posted by Christine D

Our daughter was scared of our pup when we got him. She would jump up on the back of the couch to get away from him trying to nip her pants and hands. We taught her to scream no or down really loud and he would back off and leave her alone. Now they get along great, our daughter loves him now. We also did puppy classes and obedience which I think is really beneficial for puppy and owner.

Thank you for repling. When I got bruce my kids was scared of him too and they did the exact same thing(and still do sometimes) and ever since I told them to scream or yelp and stand real still so he wont chase them, bruce stops biting them when they do this.

[jenny27360]

rotty mom,
Thank you for repling, bruce's mother and father are healthy dogs, and so far, bruce is too. His mother and father are very good dogs, I could pet them and they were very playful.

No, these pups wasn't planned and is is a shame that if they didn't sell them all, then the breeder was going to take them to the shelter. I decided to get him to be a family dog, even though he will get big(which im use to) i am going to stay on top of the training process 100%.

thank you again for repling

jenny

[jenny27360]

Originally Posted by Judi W

The thing that concerns me most is your lack of comfort in having a Rottweiler in your family. In spite of the fact that this little pup has done not one single thing to warrant such concern you want some sort of guarantee that he will never ever hurt one of your children. (dogs do not "turn" by the way) If you are not confident I will repeat, please place the pup in another home where he will be welcomed and not looked upon as some sort of bomb waiting to explode. If you feel trepidation about his breed, that will have a strong effect upon him and you should not keep him. You have received advice and recommendations but repeat your concern. This tells me that you are not convinced and that will have great detrimental influence on the pup and the entire family.

Judi, thank you for repling

yes, at first i was not very comfortable with the breed because when my family found out(and some of my friends) that i got a rott they told me that rotts were mean and would not make a good family pet.

Then i began doing some research and also found this forum, and i soon realized that their information was false. This forum has helped me so much, and has educated me "big time" about the breed, that im not only confident, i am proud to have such a smart and loyal dog. I dont have second thaughts, and i am very lucky to have gotten bruce.

I was just worried about my kids, but now i know everything will be OK.

jenny

[eva247]

Hi Jenny,

Please do not try to worry to much! My daughter is 8 so a bit older than your kids but gets on brilliantly with Kane. I can slightly understand how you have concerns at the moment as I did a lot of research but when it came to it, was faced with situations that I never read about or how to deal with it and the people within this forum gave me much valued advice to which, I took on board (some of which was criticism but extremely constructive) and put into action.

Firstly, to make the transition for you easier just think that you're puppy is no indifferent to your children (being such a young age). Your puppy's mind is still like mush, a clean slate, just like your kids were when born, your kids did not know rules, right from wrong, danger until YOU taught them and gave them the rules to live by, just like what you need to do for your pup. Your kids respect you as their mother and provider - why - because you taught them to respect you by laying down the law, this is what you need to do with your pup. If he understands what he can and can't do from you as his alpha, you will all lead a very humble life together - like they say, a happy dog is a trained dog. AND it does take a hell of a lot of dedication, time, energy, money, etc.. even when the weathers bad and you've had a long day and the kids are tired, you cannot switch off, sorry its still time for training the dog in the garden, or taking him for a walk, etc, etc!!! Believe me, its time for me to leave work and it is pelting down with rain but I know, pick up the little one, go home get changed and take Kane out for a walk....

Re your puppy biting concerns - I had a nightmare with Kane (as many know) and learn from my mistake, whatever method you use be consistent and authorative as otherwise, it will be a hard slog and take double the amount of time to rectify bad behaviour. Apart from what you have already been told, I found that when Kane did his puppy biting that giving him another command tended to take his focus away from the biting (i.e. sit, look, etc..) he still has his moments but the standing still, big 'no' and ignore works really well.

Do not be scared of the puppy biting, just remember he is only a baby and he is exploring with his teeth, as he does not have hands! I was once told that god gave puppys their teeth for a reason, they do not need their teeth at such a young age but they have them so they can learn, explore textures, biting inhibition, etc.. hence why their teeth are like needles!

If you still find you are very uneasy or uncomfortable with having a rottie pup then do think about re-homing him. Males tend to have a more dominant nature than females (although I don't think they call them bitches for no reason!) but males will be more likely to challenge you for the alpha role, if you are not up to being alpha then I wouldn't take the risk in keeping this pup more so, as your children are very young and without you holding the position of alpha, he could disrespect your authority including over your children.

Please don't get me wrong, my intention is not to scare you just to make you aware.

If you are up for the alpha role - you will have an absolute splendid time bringing up a breed such as the rottie in your home and a good laugh a minute!

All the best, Eva

[rottsnroses]

You have taken the right steps in seeking guidance, and you have been given some extremely good advice from some very respected and knowledgable people. Everything Judi W and Poohbearsmom will tell you, you can take to the bank.

Given your limited knowledge and experience with the breed, the best thing you can do if you keep this pup is to take the advice you have already been given. Get yourself and the pup in classes and stick with it for 2-3 years. It will be of great benefit to both of you, and it will help give you the comfort level you seek with your dog. It is a small investment to make with huge returns on investment.

Oh, and it bears repeating, never, ever leave children unsupervised with any dog, period.

Good luck and welcome.

[jenny27360]

Goodnes, I am so lucky to have found you all!!!!!!
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!!

After having him for almost 2 weeks, my mind is completly at ease. He is beautiful sweet and he loves and and my family...I know it!!

Yesterday we went to pet smart to get him some things and when we got back he he soooo glad to see us that he was jumping in the air and licking us and wanting to give us kisses.....I couldn't ask for a better pup.

once again thank...you guys are the best!!

[pbach]

Originally Posted by jenny27360

Goodnes, I am so lucky to have found you all!!!!!!
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!!

After having him for almost 2 weeks, my mind is completly at ease. He is beautiful sweet and he loves and and my family...I know it!!

Yesterday we went to pet smart to get him some things and when we got back he he soooo glad to see us that he was jumping in the air and licking us and wanting to give us kisses.....I couldn't ask for a better pup.

once again thank...you guys are the best!!

Jenny - Just started reading your posts and noticed that your in Thomasville. I'm here in Winston, next time you go to Petsmart - take Bruce with you for some socialization. Also, there are several places that you can take Bruce to for puppy training. Here are some of the links.

Winston Salem Dog Training Club

Red Woof Inn

You can also enroll in puppy classes at Petsmart.

Best of luck and welcome to rottweiler dot net.

Patty

[jenny27360]

Thank You So Much Patty For Repling
A Freind Of Mine Told Be About Red Woof Inn Also, I Looked In To It And I Have Already Got Him Signed Up To Go There, And Im Really Looking Forward To It

Thanks, Jenny