using heel

[lblax]

Originally Posted by cryjay

If I want one of them to heel I do not use the word "fus" that is their command to come to me

b just a question why would you use the command for heal as a recall

[cryjay]

I was taught that the German word fus meant come. I was trained by a German fluent in his own language so I am assuming he was right. Maybe not, who knows, but I know that for the police officers here where I live that use the K-9's of half of them are taught in German, they use the word fus to come as well. I don't know maybe my city is just a little backwards :).

[lblax]

Originally Posted by cryjay

I was taught that the German word fus meant come. I was trained by a German fluent in his own language so I am assuming he was right. Maybe not, who knows, but I know that for the police officers here where I live that use the K-9's of half of them are taught in German, they use the word fus to come as well. I don't know maybe my city is just a little backwards :).

http://www.uwsp.edu/psych/dog/languag1.htm

go to the link posted above and you will find dog commands in several languages

[Judi W]

What you saw was the dog going to heel position from wherever it was.

[VON KIRCHER]

Originally Posted by Judi W

What you saw was the dog going to heel position from wherever it was.

Judi

What exactly should the heel command, mean?

[Judi W]

Heel is a very specific position whether moving or still except when still the dog should be sitting. It is with the area from the tip of the dog's nose to it's whithers beside the handler's left leg. The dog should be close, but not interferring with the handler's movement. It should maintain that position regardless of speed of travel, turns, etc.

[lblax]

Originally Posted by VON KIRCHER

Judi

What exactly should the heel command, mean?

heal is the formal attentive walking(or if your stopped sitting)position on your left side and the dogs shoulder about at your knee with his full attention on you..it is very stressfull for a dog and is not part of your everyday walk in the park unless you need his full attention

[MrsBoats]

Thank god Mr. B doesn't walk Sam anywhere near as much as he was before when walking was his physical therapy.

I use "by me" if I want Sam close to me but not a formal heel. Heel means that specific position like Judi just described. Mr. B will not use "by me" to pull Sam in closer to him but uses "Heel" without making Sam do a proper heel. I tell him to use "by me" and he tells me that he doesn't like that command. I have told him that heel is something where it's a formal command with attention and shouldn't be used with walking down the street and you need the dog closer to you. It's like talking with a wall.

It's not much as an issue anymore since I'm the primary dog walker once again. But, how can I dumb down what you're saying to someone who has no idea why Heel now is so much more different than "just walk next to me". To him "heel" is what he learned with his golden retriever Mr. B did one obedience class when he was 8.

[laurlitt]

Originally Posted by lblax

b just a question why would you use the command for heal as a recall

The callout from the blind ('fus') is a good example of when it's not used during 'heeling', but telling the dog to come to me and be in the basic position.

[lblax]

Originally Posted by laurlitt

The callout from the blind ('fus') is a good example of when it's not used during 'heeling', but telling the dog to come to me and be in the basic position.

yes a call out from a blind but that is asking for a position but it is not a recall and fuss should not be used as a recall in the callout your talkind a matter of a few feet

[laurlitt]

Originally Posted by lblax

yes a call out from a blind but that is asking for a position but it is not a recall and fuss should not be used as a recall in the callout your talkind a matter of a few feet

IMO you're still calling the dog to you no matter have many feet away it is... Point being that the command can be interpreted more than one way... As long as it's clear what the dog is suppose to do w/ the command you can say anything...

If my dog is 30 feet away and I say 'fus'... she better come to me (and to my side).

[Judi W]

The come whether "come" or "heeere" asks for a front. The heel, whether "heel" or "fus" is for the position at the left side of the handler, whether moving or static.

[lblax]

Originally Posted by Judi W

The come whether "come" or "heeere" asks for a front. The heel, whether "heel" or "fus" is for the position at the left side of the handler, whether moving or static.

exactly!!judi the commands are totally differant in meaning

[laurlitt]

It's all a game of word semantics at this point... and each handler may have a slight variation of the dog's interpretation of any command. If my dog is 10 feet away and I say Fus and my dog comes to my side (she has come to me as opposed to going away). If I say 'come' and she sits at my front she has also come to me... That was my point...