Scared Puppy

[Sharon Marples]

Originally Posted by elihim

This is the best reply i have heard so far. Thats exactly what i planned to do, because i think some of thes people in here are tryin to scare you than give you advice on what they think you should do. Thanks again everybody and for the good AMATEUR advice.

If we had gotten ALL of the information right at the beginning, you would not have received the replies you did. You indicated that the pup was fearful, but did not give us any history of what had happened with the pup. It was not our fault that you received the replies you did.

In the future, if you have a problem and you are looking for advice, please provide us with the proper background in order for all of us to be able to advise you accordingly.

Good luck with your pup, sounds as if she will be fine with proper techniques used to help her overcome her initial fear. It will be up to you to make sure she is never put in contact with another older dog that could scare her again. At her age, all interaction needs to be positive and arranged to build confidence.

[elihim]

Thanks again for the advice and i will make sure her other interactions are positive ones. My wife will be making her own profile to ask her questions because i seen we have confused y'all by using the same name. Thanks

[brunie's mom]

Originally Posted by elihim

We definatly plan to do that. We had taken her out one day a couple of weeks ago and a neighbors dog (who is not friendly) tried to attack her. My husband stopped the dog but my poor puppy got very frightened so that's probably why other dogs scare her now but she doesn't go outside very often because we're waiting for her to get her last set of shots. As soon as she does thoug.

I think your mistake, has been not to be taking her outside, and out and about.
She does not need her full series of vaccinations and her rabies shot before being taken out an about. She should have been in Puppy K classes already and she should be well on her way to being potty trained by now.

Please tell me you take her outside to potty??
Puppies can and should be doing everything once they have had their second set of shots. Just make sure you do not take them to the dog park or let them sniff or eat dog feces or hang around areas where strange dogs have been.
It's been said on these forums many times....the lack of socialization kills way more dogs than parvo. If a pup misses the most important time of socialization...this severely sets them back emotionally. Some say up to 12 weeks, some say up to 16 weeks...is the most important time.

If you plan on waiting to take your pup out....you are doing her harm.

What does your breeder say about her being scared? Your breeder should be helping you and giving you ideas.

Also...FYI...just because your pup has 5 champions in it's pedigree...does not make your pup come from a good breeder. You can look at any BYB papers...and find champions in their pedigrees.

Gina

[elihim]

Ok Brunie'smom, im already potty training and i have been giving her walks, all i said is she's not to be outside now which was recommended buy the vet . She will be starting her classes next 2 weeks , and not because everybody didnt buy a pup from you doesn't mean eyerybody elses dog is from a byb. "I hope your dog is not from a byb", and when people ask questions you dont need to come with all that negativity. This is starting to look like a rottweiler dictionary and not a forum where newcomers could get some positive advice, and who is to say that everybody that comes to this forum doesnt know or have experience with the dogs? You could learn a thing or two from a newcomer because im sure you dont know it all ( and that is what you sound like). I have seen some members say somethings in here which is totally B/S, like Mr damp how could he tell someone that because they took there pup to early they should put it to sleep an there's no coming back, that is a whole heap of garbage. I dont think i will be posting here again because ther are to many chefs in this kitchen.

[brunie's mom]

Originally Posted by elihim

Ok Brunie'smom, im already potty training and i have been giving her walks, all i said is she's not to be outside now which was recommended buy the vet . She will be starting her classes next 2 weeks , and not because everybody didnt buy a pup from you doesn't mean eyerybody elses dog is from a byb. "I hope your dog is not from a byb", and when people ask questions you dont need to come with all that negativity. This is starting to look like a rottweiler dictionary and not a forum where newcomers could get some positive advice, and who is to say that everybody that comes to this forum doesnt know or have experience with the dogs? You could learn a thing or two from a newcomer because im sure you dont know it all ( and that is what you sound like). I have seen some members say somethings in here which is totally B/S, like Mr damp how could he tell someone that because they took there pup to early they should put it to sleep an there's no coming back, that is a whole heap of garbage. I dont think i will be posting here again because ther are to many chefs in this kitchen.

It seems like there is a miscommunication problem.
You are not posting clearly on what you are doing with your pup.
In one post you say that you do NOT take her outside. To me this means you are keeping her in the house.
You say that she is afraid of dogs, and will not even pee or poop outside because she is so freaked out.
Now you say that she pottys outside?

Please do not leave the forums...there is alot to learn here. We all are learning everyday. You are going to have to toughen up, if you want to own a Rottweiler.

Take your pup outside....you need to socialize her in safe places. The best is to take her to homes where other's have nice, healthy dogs that are up todate in vaccinations,etc. Next get her in puppy k classes. She must be meeting all sorts of people, and seeing different things.
Playing with your kids at home, is not enough socialization. If she is afraid of things...she can become a fear biter. These are the dogs that are not safe around people....because they are afraid.

You sound like you want whats best for your pup....but you must also gives us details so we can help you.

Gina

[AngelBunny]

Originally Posted by elihim

You could learn a thing or two from a newcomer because im sure you dont know it all ( and that is what you sound like)....I dont think i will be posting here again because ther are to many chefs in this kitchen.

Yes, we all can learn from people with knowledge.

However, when people like yourself come here and ask simple, elementary questions; do not post all the facts of a situation and clearly do not like the resonses they subsequently receive; think XXX number of champions in a dog's pedigee mean something (FYI--my first Rottie, from a BYB, had many front and back titled dogs in his pedigree); and get defensive, it's hard for me not to let exasperation get the better of me--or for me to think there's anything I can learn from the OP.

Perhaps you haven't spent enough time reading thru the various forums here to realize the depth of knowledge you have so readily at your fingertips.

Many people here have been active with the breed for decades. Many breed champions. Many work, train, and show their dogs. Many are active in rescue and have been for years. Many are active in the fight against BSL.

Your dissmissive comment on chefs discloses how misinformed you are.

You have a choice: Stay here, open your mind, and learn, becoming a contributing member or leave.

[elihim]

Sorry again for misinforming you the first time. I would really like to soak up a bit of knowledge from this forum, she wont be a fear biter, loves people alot sorry if my wife made her sound like such a cowardly dog because honestly i think she would be fine.

[Pullo]

Yes dont go, there is alot of info on here to help you and you might not always get the advice you want to hear but you should still hear it. Also my sisters pup just the sire has 25 champions and shutzhund titles in his 4 year generation pedigree but that dosent mean her pup is better than yours or vice versa. Alot of people think of byb first because so many people really dont get the difference and that could contribute to her temperment so it must always be asked to new members. Dont take offense unless it is true, and even then dont get mad just use the advice to the best you can. The only reason some people sound so offensive or mean is because they love this breed and want to make sure everything you can be doing you are. thanks good luck bye.

[elihim]

Thanks everyone. Dont get me wrong i will take heed to what everyone has to say. I will keep posting here, and sorry if i offended anyone. I think my girl will be alright my wife just got a little scared as a first time mom. Thanks again

[zorro13]

Not to bore anyone with details, but my current dog (not a rott) came with a fear of other dogs and even children. Why, probably a mix of temperment and environment I can only assume. He was like this from the very beginning. This poor pup was raised from day 1 outside 24/7, not only with his mom and other littermates but other adult dogs as well by a man who proudly proclaimed bringing up his pups on deer meat. (there is more to this) Anyhow, upon first witnessing these fears, naturally I was quite taken aback by it as this pup turned tail and just ran away, wanted nothing to do with either of them. Long story short, this dog now at age 3 happily plays with the 4 year old neighbor next door, does not run from other dogs, shows no aggression of any type towards people nor animals, while still quirky, he is much more of a confident dog today.

My second rott, unfortunately sustained an attack (minor) along with myself from my neighbor's basset hound, as I had both my rotts on leash getting out of my car. This was probably around age 10 months to a year. Luckily as well, no problems with this rott. This kinda crap just gives me more work to do, not to mention hoping for the best.

Animal to animal aggression episodes does not always make a fear biter, as fear biters are more associated with aggression towards humans (socialization problems in my opinion, I don't feel there are that many whacked out nervy dogs out there, but they do exist), which are not always inter-related.

[damp]

Originally Posted by elihim

I have seen some members say somethings in here which is totally B/S, like Mr damp how could he tell someone that because they took there pup to early they should put it to sleep an there's no coming back, that is a whole heap of garbage. I dont think i will be posting here again because ther are to many chefs in this kitchen.

Agree that Mr. damp has no clue about dogs...

Bye elihim!