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Old 03-30-2007, 02:22 PM
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2 problems with my puppy

hi everybody,
so its been a week since i got this 4 months old rottweiler
he was very cute and healthy
the first problem is he wont listen to me or pay attention to me no matter
how good or bad i treat him
he never looks me in the eyes,
but if he is hungry he will do anything i been teachin him and pays a good
attention to me.

the 2nd problem when i first got him he was eatin fine
never refusese a treat or extra food , i feed him with my hand
and he does nothin , i take his food from him while eatin and does nothin
just like any good puppy,
and he was very active and loves to play
till esterday he wont eat nothin , even if i try to feed him with by hand
he just gives me a sad look then turn his back away
(2 days passed like this and now he becomin slim, i can tell from his body)
and now he dont wanna play anymore no matter what i do or try
to play with him, he only sleeps and lay down like a very old dog
who got no energy
even his prefered toy he wont touch it
the whole week i stayed with him 5 hours daily took him to walk and played
alot with him, now he wont do nothin

plz advice
thnx in advance
 
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Old 03-30-2007, 03:06 PM
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Re: 2 problems with my puppy

Issue #1: He's a youngster and untrained, so of course he's not going to consistently pay attention to you! You should only be treating him kindly and consistently--why should he pay attention to you and want to be with you when you treat him badly? It's unkind and cruel to be mean to your puppy, so please stop treating him badly.

Issue #2: Why don't you take him to your vet, since it sounds as tho he's unwell?
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Old 03-30-2007, 04:15 PM
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Re: 2 problems with my puppy

its not that bad as u think, and just did that twice
not to be mean to him, just to test if he would pay attention
just yelling at him, no hittin no bad treating

and before takin him to the vet any other advices?

thnx
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Old 03-30-2007, 04:52 PM
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Re: 2 problems with my puppy

What are you feeding him?
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Old 03-30-2007, 05:01 PM
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Re: 2 problems with my puppy

milk , cheese , meat and chicken
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Old 03-30-2007, 05:20 PM
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Re: 2 problems with my puppy

If your trying to go for the natural diet milk, cheese, and chicken is lacking balance. Dairy should be feed sparingly if at all.

This could make hime sick.

Maybe you should start all over with a clear mind knowing that he will not know anything you don't teach him and get to teaching. There's so much info on this site already about things like this.

There's also alot of info on the web about Natural and Raw diets.

Last if your pup doesn't eat soon you really should re-think the vet.
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Old 03-30-2007, 05:58 PM
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Re: 2 problems with my puppy

Where are you located? Let us know and we can help you find a balanced food in your area.

And why would you expect a 4 month old puppy to pay attention to you if you are not making it fun for him to pay attention? At that age, everything should be fun and games for him. You can teach him lots of things with treats as rewards. But he is not old enough to know what you are talking about if you are just asking him to come or do something else that you have not put a lot of training into.

Get him enrolled into puppy obedience classes and go from there. Get a leash on him, take lots of treats and start training, training, training! When he finds out that he has to look to you for his food and treats and that he won't be mistreated AT ALL, then he will gradually become more and more dependent on you and pay much more attention.

You need to get this pup on a balance diet, they should not be fed just what humans eat, get a good, well-balanced food for him. Don't buy the cheap stuff, look around and get a good food for him. What you are now feeding him could easily make him not feel well. I would also suggest a visit to the vet just to make sure he has not picked up some "bug" from another dog or a visit somewhere.

Make sure the vet tests him for worms.

Keep us posted.
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Old 03-30-2007, 06:22 PM
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Re: 2 problems with my puppy

Not to be mean here, but yelling at a dog IS treating it badly. You don't have to physically hurt the dog to treat it badly.
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:13 PM
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Re: 2 problems with my puppy

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...before takin him to the vet any other advices?
No, I have no other advice.

In my country, if a pet appears to be unwell, the pet is taken to the vet.
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:34 PM
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Re: 2 problems with my puppy

I would definately take him to a vet....it sounds like he is pretty sick to me and it may get serious if you keep putting it off. a normal, healthy puppy should be eating lots and have alot of energy to play. has he had any shots?
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Old 03-31-2007, 02:10 AM
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Re: 2 problems with my puppy

Your dog is not well. Take him to the vet. That's the best advice you will get.
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Old 03-31-2007, 03:15 AM
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Re: 2 problems with my puppy

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hi everybody,
so its been a week since i got this 4 months old rottweiler
he was very cute and healthy
the first problem is he wont listen to me or pay attention to me no matter
how good or bad i treat him
he never looks me in the eyes,
but if he is hungry he will do anything i been teachin him and pays a good
attention to me.
Regardless of a dog's age, it takes longer than a week for a dog to become acquainted with you, let alone see you as any kind of a pack leader. Have a little patience, the pup needs time to adjust.

Almost any dog can be motivated by food, and in the beginning, treats are used and then slowly "phased out" as training continues.

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the 2nd problem when i first got him he was eatin fine
never refusese a treat or extra food , i feed him with my hand
and he does nothin , i take his food from him while eatin and does nothin
just like any good puppy,
and he was very active and loves to play
till esterday he wont eat nothin , even if i try to feed him with by hand
he just gives me a sad look then turn his back away
(2 days passed like this and now he becomin slim, i can tell from his body)
and now he dont wanna play anymore no matter what i do or try
to play with him, he only sleeps and lay down like a very old dog
who got no energy
even his prefered toy he wont touch it
the whole week i stayed with him 5 hours daily took him to walk and played
alot with him, now he wont do nothin

plz advice
thnx in advance
A week ago he could have been eating good quality food and this different kind of food is causing problems. Dogs do not have a varied diet like humans, and their digestive system simply cannot handle too fast of a change. If you are switching from one kind of dog food to another, you need to mix the two together (slowly increasing the amount of new dog food) over the course of a week. By the end of the week, the dog is on a different kind of dog food.

The rest of the symptoms are signs of a sick pup. Take him to a vet pronto. If you are trying to avoid the vet, then why have a dog? Pets get sick and just like humans, need to see a doctor when you're not sure why they're sick or how badly they are injured. It's safe for you and the pup, and cheaper in the long run.


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milk , cheese , meat and chicken
All mammals with the exception of humans (most humans), become lactose intolerant shortly after they are weaned. So milk, cheese, and other dairy products will cause pain, discomfort, and "sickly" conditions for a dog (in high abundance).

Chicken is great, but not by itself. You have to add more to it, and you have to know what needs to be added and in what proportions. This is why most people just go ahead and buy dog food that is "pre-mixed." It's better than experimenting on your puppy and have him become sick.

Dogs are not carnivores entirely, they do require plants in their diet. However, not just any vegetable is acceptable, and meat alone will make for a sickly dog too. Ask around for a good quality "pre-mixed" dog food. It would save time, money, and make for fewer headaches.

Congratulations on your new puppy, and I hope you find useful information on this site. If the replies seem overwhelming, it's simply because everyone wants to help you to avoid novice mistakes and those expensive (and preventable) vet bills. Also, training a Rottweiler is a necessity if for no other reason than their size. They also have a bad reputation which pushes for training too.

A trained dog is a happy dog. They can go anywhere because they are well behaved. 1-2 years of frustration is all it takes to remove a lifetime of banishment to the backyard, shelter, or worse for your dog. Please give training a try. This breed is incredibly smart and so willing to please.
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Old 03-31-2007, 06:53 AM
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Re: 2 problems with my puppy

i see
thanks for all of you
actualy i woke up this morning and i saw my pup vomitin and he has diarrhea
so i took him to the vet and will check back on him tomorrow
anybody got an idea what this could be??
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Old 03-31-2007, 08:56 AM
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Re: 2 problems with my puppy

My first concern is the diet and health. I've tried 3-4 foods on my 10 mo. You need to feed a high grade food which as stated above is what this pup might have been on previously, hence the change. A trip to the vet to check for worms, parasites etc would be in order. A sick pup will learn nothing and they can deteriorate quickly. You've had the pup for one week. Don't we all wish a pup would listen consistently after one week! Training with Rotties seems never to end. Yelling will defiitely not do anything other than possibly make him fearful (very bad) or worse. It can be frustrating but consistency is a must. Believe me, there were times that I would have liked to pull my hair out. My 10 mo even with daily training doesn't always do what is expected of him. He will try to get away with ignoring me when he's in his extremely playful mood. Then he gets time out, no play and gets put into his place. Proper training and proper nutrition is a must with a Rottie or your dog WILL end up in solitary confinement, a shelter or worse down the road. Not sure how much experience or research you have done on this breed but you sound like you need outside help to get training yourself as that is where the root of most behavior problems start. I had done extensive research, read many books, spoke to trainers, and scanned the websites for articles even before I got my 2nd Rottie! You never stop learning about this breed. I am still doing this and find loads of wonderful information on this site alone. Good luck.
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Old 03-31-2007, 11:35 AM
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Re: 2 problems with my puppy

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i see
thanks for all of you
actualy i woke up this morning and i saw my pup vomitin and he has diarrhea
so i took him to the vet and will check back on him tomorrow
anybody got an idea what this could be??
So the vets have him in hospital for the night do they? That sounds like a good idea to me.
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