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Old 12-29-2006, 01:58 PM
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Peed on my bed

I am writing in an effort to not have an explosion. Baralai is about 12 weeks old. I have had her since she was about 5 weeks old. (The man I took her from said 4, the vet said 6, I'm meeting in the middle). Potty training, like for everyone, has been an issue. So far, she has peed on my couch, my computer, my floor pillows and just right now, my bed. She was taken out about 45 minutes ago. I know that I am going to get the "You let her off-leash, this is your fault" from a few people. But what I want to know is, why is she not peeing on the floor, but on my things. Its never the kids' bed, etc. It's mine. She also has destroyed 22 pairs of underwear. My older boy doesnt have this issue, so I just use laundry baskets, and they are kept in the linen closet upstairs. So I went and bought a hamper with a lid, which she has figured out how to knock over. So I put a 15 pound rock in the bottom of it. (I collect rocks. Its a chunk of obsidan, dont ask, lol) Hopefully that will keep her out of it. She is crated at night, I know that she can hold her bladder. I'm getting really irritated with the dog. Is it alright to not like your puppy's personality? She's just a snot. She wont eat out of her own bowl, she has to eat with Zan, my older boy. I've put her food in her crate, shut her in, and let her sit there for a half hour. Her food sits untouched, and as soon as I let her out, she heads straight for zan's bowl. Zan was 4 months when I got him, and I dont know how aggressively pups are supposed to play. I've read the growling and biting threads here, yes. She has bitten both the girls and has snapped at their faces, and mine as well. She gets a swift "No!" and then totally ignored for a few minutes. When she goes uber-demon spawn, and is barking and snarling and wont calm down, she gets put in her crate for a few minutes. She's a brat. I dont expect her to be perfect, she's three months old. Her obedience class starts the 10th of January, that was the next class after her Rabies shot that I could get her into. I am at the point where I dont want to come home from work because then I have to deal with her. Zan was a pleasure to raise. This one is not. I guess I need a rott.net attiitude adjustment. Now, I have to go strip and clean my bed since I am calmer. Have a good day.

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Old 12-29-2006, 02:04 PM
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Re: Peed on my bed

Oh Robyn, I feel for you. I don't have experience with puppies like this - so don't have anything to add. However, I would suggest that you leash her to you anytime she is not in her crate inside. This way, she can't get into mischief like this. It seems that she has far too much free time... . I know that those more experienced will help...
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Old 12-29-2006, 02:28 PM
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Wow sounds like you have your hands full with Baralai. As i was reading your thread i was laughing along with every word. This is because i went through some of the same issues you have now. i have a 6 month old rotty now by the name of Keawe. so im not that far from going through your experiences. The first thing that i would suggest is to give your dog some limitations in your home. dont give her free roam on the whole house. if she gets free roam then she will think everything is hers. so keep her in one room like the living area etc... this also gives you more control on teaching and correcting her. My dog always seems to live to chew on clothes as well. hes ruined a few pairs of socks in his 6 months. you just have to make a hard stern corrections when they do those kinds of behaviours. i just say NO and make them lay down in the surrender mode. that way he knows i mean NO and that hes down. during his 3 to 6 month stage he really had a bad attitude. i felt just like how you feel now. he was barking and snarling at me and the wife as well. when he didnt get his way or was corrected. he would walk around my wife and growl like he didnt like her. so we just put him in his kennel for a time out and ignored him until he would stop. after about a week hes over it now. about the food problem... i would suggest feeding at different locations first until she eats out of her own bowl. you also need to set certian times when they eat. mine would eat whenever he wanted to. well thats not a good thing. so i would put his bowl out for a hour starting at 7am. is he didnt eat it by 8 them i would take it away. now he eats when i put his bowl down at a certain time. Now about your doing peeing on things. i really dont know about that one. i dont know why pets are attracted to peeing on certiain things. my rotty doesnt pee inside and i havent had that problem. but i used to have another dog that would pee on the couch and table corners. the only thing that fixed that was time. i would only suggest keeping her away from those items. oh and also use the sour apple spray found at any pet store. its like some correctional sray. that works on keeping pets from chewing on things.
oh and if you give your rotty plenty of excercise then she wont have energy to get into bad bahaviours. long walks, playing fetch in the yard, and so forth will reduce her bad habits.
well i hope i was somewhat helpful on your matters. things do get better so stay in there.
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Old 12-29-2006, 03:22 PM
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Re: Peed on my bed

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Baralai is about 12 weeks old. I have had her since she was about 5 weeks old. (The man I took her from said 4, the vet said 6, I'm meeting in the middle).
Robyn
Baralai is a baby dog, and I do mean baby! She left home WAY too soon, should have been with the litter until at least 8 weeks, 10 would be better! While I understand your frustration, the hard times are yet to come. You have a long, long road ahead of you.
For now, if she's not to be crated (and I have never used a crate, but then, hey, I live in a house made of concrete), she needs to be contained in an area where everything is puppy-proof. When mine were babies, I literally crawled through the house on my hands and knees to see things from their perspective. Electrical cords, bedspread fringe, soft, chewy slippers just made for puppy chewing!
When she wakes up, she will need to pee, when she finishes eating, when she finishes playing, just about before and after anything, so just take her out...alot! In the meantime, devise a safe place for her with washable surfaces.
She's selecting items that have your scent. She wants to be with, near, or even on you. She's way too little to have the run of the house and is feeling insecure, so when she gets far enough away that she can't see or hear you, she is finding you (or something that smells like you!)
Keep her close, watch her closer and lavish her with praise, treats, affection and more when she gets it right.
Go the local Goodwill or Salvation Army Thrift Store and get dozens of little stuffed animals for her. When mine were baby babies (the two 16-month-olds were born here), I left them with a t-shirt or blanket or something that smelled like me whenever I couldn't be right with them, it helped with the bonding thing, so that they would bond with me and not each other...
I could go on and on, but I'll stop there...other than to say good luck! We'll talk again when she starts teething!
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Old 12-29-2006, 05:08 PM
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As was mentioned, she came to your home WAY too early. You can expect a lot more troublesome times in raising her because she was taken from her siblings at too young of an age. the biting and snapping are a perfect example of why she should have stayed with her siblings so that she went through the bite inhibition stage with them. She should never be put in her crate for punishment, it should be a place where she WANTS to go, her safe haven.

First of all, she should NEVER have free run of the house. It is your fault she is destroying things and peeing where she should not. She is a BABY, not an adult dog. It takes time, and LOTS of patience to raise a puppy properly and you need to apply yourself a bit more to this job. She should be tethered to you whenever she is out of the crate and loose in the house.

Be careful, with the way she is destroying things and has access to things, she may eat something one day that will cause an intestional blockage or worse yet, she may chew through a cord that will electrocute her. It is your job to know what she is doing every minute of the day.

Keep your other dogs food up off of the floor. Feed her in her crate only and if she does not eat, take it up and don't feed her anything until her next meal. She will soon get the message.

Please read through the following carefully and understand that you have a very young puppy that will take months and months of constant supervision and training before she can be trusted to have run of your home.

Good luck, it can be done with lots of patience and work!

http://www.rottweiler.net/forums/pup...uppy-home.html

http://www.rottweiler.net/forums/pup...nance-etc.html

http://www.rottweiler.net/forums/pup...velopment.html
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Old 12-29-2006, 09:24 PM
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She's leashed to my ankle right now. I bought her a 6 ft lead, and here she is. I absolutely agree that I got her way too early. It was my house or the bottom of a lake. The man I took her from, at a gas station in SC, on my way to Daytona Beach, let me know that he had 8 of them and that if he didnt find a home for them, he was "jes gonna toss the little *&^%$#s in the lake". The story is on here, a few pages back. I promise it was not a breeder, shelter or rescue that seperated her so early. Zan has done a good job of stepping in as a step-father, he used to clean her, and taught her where teeth can be used and where they cannot. He will put her in her place when he's had enough, and I do always make sure that he can get away from her when he needs a break. Anyway, as I said, she's leashed to me, and hopefully this will eliminate many of the frustrations.

Sharon, you said to get Zan's food up off the floor? Are you meaning like a raised dog bowl set-up sort of thing? I've seen them at Pet-co, but she could reach that. Or are you talking about if he doesnt eat in a certain amount of time? He is a lazy eater, always has been, since I got him. He's hard to keep weight on, but I can start taking it away after a half-hour, or whatever, if you think that's best. **EDIT** Prairie Dog and Prairie Girl might be the cutest things ever :D

She does go outside about every 2 hours, except after bed time. I even actually set the microwave timer to make sure that she does. I have a tendancy to get into writing, and wont notice the passage of time, so I set the timer. Anyway, thank you for your input everyone.

Robyn

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Old 12-29-2006, 10:00 PM
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Re: Peed on my bed

yes, take the food away, out of reach of either dog after a set period of time. this way she won't be able to ignore hers and go feast on zan's, and it might even teach zan to finish his food when it's dinner/breakfast time. take her food away of she doesn't eat it, and don't give her access to anything else to eat until next feeding time. she won't starve, she'll learn to eat when the food is placed in front of her.

also, the eating of underwear, shoes etc can be prevented by not leaving anything within her reach when she is unsupervised. in other words, you'll have to supervise her AT ALL times that she is not crated. it's tough, i know, but she won't be a baby forever, and will learn what is allowed and what isn't.

about peeing on your couch, bed etc. she has by no means earned the priviledge of getting on your bed, and should never be allowed there until she is reliable, trained and well-mannered. if at all. our dogs are well behaved, but at 6 years and 1 years old respectively, they are still not allowed on our beds. it's just not their place, they have their own couch/bed, and knows the difference between ours and theirs.

good luck, it can be tough training and teaching your puppy, but always remember, she is still a very young baby, and she really doesn't know right from wrong.
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Old 12-29-2006, 10:24 PM
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lol one would think that in a hamper, with a lid behind the closet door isnt within her reach, but shes a smart little thing and figured out how to get the door open, and knock it over. But as I said, she's leashed to me, so hopefully that will be the end of that issue.

Any suggestions for keeping her off the couch and off the bed? Shes big enough to jump up if she wants to, and pushing her off and telling her "No" isnt working. We just did it, no kidding, 11 times, then I had to get up and answer the door. Since she is leashed to me, she had to come along.
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Old 12-29-2006, 10:56 PM
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aahhh the old famous couch and bed problem. for my rotty i just had to keep working with him over and over to not let him on the couch. anytime he would come close it was a NO and then take him to another spot and have him sit or lay down. and anytime he came close i would snap my finger and he would walk away. i know that it is really annoying, but it all takes time. you might have dont it 11 times, but it might take 100 more. just keep reinforcing your rules in the house. or you could invest some money into one of those electic pads for dogs. you place it under your cushion and if your dog jumps on the bed it will vibrate or send a pulse through the cushion and your dog will jump off. works the same as a shock collar. if your stern and repetitive then you will eventually win over your rotty.
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Old 12-30-2006, 12:59 AM
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The good ole spray bottle works wonders with "earless" dogs. And the good thing is she will grow up loving water. I always thought that if I spray Val he would grow up scared of it. But nope! He knows when i am serious and when i am playing. Sit on the couch, and if she tries to jump up tell her no and make her lay down (if she doesnt know how push her to the ground...but not hard...just enough to make her lay down) If that doesnt work go to plan B..the spray bottle. Get her right between the eyes with a mist at first...if that fails turn it to jet and spray her in the chest or side. Be sure to use a firm...but not yelling voice when correcting and most important...When she finally does listen reward her to hell!! Plug her full of treats and praise her till she drops!

Now the peeing thing. I had a very short problem with that for Val. All you do is make the times more frequent at first...30 mins-1 hour apart (i know this sucks but you must have patience with this little baby) DO NOT go insid ethe house until she has peed or pood or both! even if it means sitting out there for an hour (hey its -30C here right now and Val doesnt go in until he pees!) Just keep telling her "go pee" or "potty" and when she fianlly does .....praise praise praise (but not until she has finished). Do not take the two dogs out at the same time during training, it will only distract her.

The food thing...Put her in her crate, put the food bowl in front of her and close the door...walk away for 30 mins...if food is still there take it away and take Zans away as well. She will soon learn that when she is in her crate with food, that means eat! This will teach Zan to eat his food as well. Also it helps to put the water in with the food sometimes, she will certainly want to drink the water and she would have to lick the food to do that...or you can even break up a treat and mix it in with her food the first few times to coax her to eat! Or even better mix in a little wet food once in a while..she will for sure eat it ASAP!

Like the others have said...DO NOT let her out of your sight until you can COMPLETELY trust her. Even when she is well trained keep valuable stuff up and away. If you see her chewing something she is not supposed to...take it away and give her a toy she is allowed to chew on...she will get it, you mentioned that she is a very smart girl. So don't give up and take a DEEEEP breath, have a glass of water and get a breath of fresh air...do not get frustrated as dogs can sense this! Keep it cool calm and quiet!

Good Luck, I hope this helps! :)
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Old 12-30-2006, 07:51 AM
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Re: Peed on my bed

Wait a minute, we are still talking about a 12 week old puppy, right?

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... just keep reinforcing your rules in the house. or you could invest some money into one of those electic pads for dogs. you place it under your cushion and if your dog jumps on the bed it will vibrate or send a pulse through the cushion and your dog will jump off. works the same as a shock collar. if your stern and repetitive then you will eventually win over your rotty.
I truly wish you all the luck in the world with this little one, truly. But do not expect this infant to behave like the adult she will one day become; how well she does that depends entirely on you!
But, truly, I think this is a bit extreme for a baby. Now, I understand that you will choose whatever is best for your and yours, but for me and my house, if the couch is too good for the dogs, it's time to get a different couch. I use slipcovers, nice and washable slipcovers.
I'm new around here and don't pretend to be an expert, but I've got three magnificent dogs, two I raised from birth and the older guy from 10 weeks, without the use of anything electrical.
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I found with my male, now 5 months old that making him work for part of his food helped a great deal with getting into mischief. I fed part dry kibble by hand during short training sessions, part in a bowl and the rest in a kong, or another puzzle toy that made him have to think and work for the food. It is more interesting to them and more time consuming but great to watch how smart they truly are. Also raw bones are a great way to keep them from eating your socks. Trust me they would much rather have the bone.
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**Update**

11 Feb-

She did it again. She was taken out about an hour ago, I had her leashed, and we were upstairs, I was putting away laundry. I was sitting on the bed, putting clothes in the drawer and she hopped up just to my side and back and peed, literally on me. I really am at my wit's end with this dog. The other day, she snapped at Cate's hand when she tried to get her homework back. She didnt break skin, but close to. She went after the cat a few days ago. She lost her cookie underneath the cupboard and I started to push it out with my foot and she snarled at my foot. She is 6 months old now. I have her in obedience, I practice NILF. I'm just stuck. I am looking to find a behaviorist. Erik is coming home tomorrow from Iraq and he is not going to be kosher with the bed thing. What I would like to know is about how much does a behaviorist cost, and really, what could they tell me, other than the fact she is a poorly bred cross, with an attitude problem.
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Get a crate and start crate training her.
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Old 02-11-2007, 06:42 PM
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Yes crate her!
You are not practicing NILIF if this pup is allowed on the bed. Sounds like you have leadership problems....if this pup saw you as leader she would not be snarling, snapping or jumping up on beds.

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