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Old 04-13-2012, 09:36 AM
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We got our new rottweiler at 13 weeks. She is now 15 weeks. When put her in the crate and she pooped and peed in there as soon as we put in there. The crate is large enough for her to get up and turn around as stated. It was so bad she had be given a bath. Yes the crate was cleaned. This has happened every time. We left the crate open one day and she walked in the crate and peed.

We feed her in the morning wait about 30 minutes to take her out. She waits until she come back in the house to go. This also happens when we feed her in the evening. Looking for some advice. We are not using pads because of advice from the forum.

She is doing well with other training such as sit, stay, heel, and down.
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Old 04-14-2012, 02:54 AM
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Re: Training not going well

When you clean up her mess, take it out to the area of your yard you want her to go to the bathroom in. The smell will help be a queue that it is the area for her to do her business in.

Feed her at set times and pick up her water several hours before you go to bed.

She needs to understand what going outside means. So when you take her out stay out until she goes. When she does praise and treat her. If you need to go back in before she goes, keep a VERY close eye on her, and rush her out if she starts circling or acts like she is gonna go.

Always pay attention to her if she is unconfined. One slip up can set you back

Do not punish her for going in the house. She does not know better and it is not fair. If she goes in the house it is your fault for not paying attention.

Be patient and consistent.

Soon enough she will get the idea :)

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Old 04-14-2012, 06:12 AM
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When you got your puppy at 13 weeks, where was she living?? If she had been spending most of her time in a crate...she may have been forced to poop/pee in there. Puppies that are allowed to live in dirty conditions take much longer to learn to be clean.

You may want to stop using the crate, and leash her to you. Only put her in the crate if you are sure she is empty. Start feeding her in her crate also.

It is very frustrating...but for some reason she thinks this is where she needs to go to the bathroom.

Also, what are you feeding her?? Some grain based foods, cause them to poop bigger amounts, and more often...and that does not help with this problem either. Has she been wormed regularly?? Worms can also cause them to poop frequently.

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Old 04-14-2012, 07:16 AM
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When you are outside with her, don't let her wander around. Too much stimulation is going on. Just keep silent, motionless and hold the leash. Give her at least ten minutes.
As Gina said feeding in the crate helps, put a chew toy with her for overnight. I prefer kongs with a teaspoon of something she values.

She definitely has a strange association with her crate and potty place.
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Old 04-14-2012, 12:26 PM
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Sounds like she was trained (purposefully or inadvertantly) to go in her crate. What style crate do you have? Maybe you could change to a different type of crate, and continue with the potty training, but hopefully with a fresh start. I.e. if you're using a plastic crate, get a wire, and vice versa.

The other thought is to continue the potty training schedule, and if she hasn't gone when you come back in, she must stay leashed to you (leash in your hand) as you go about the house. Then go back out in about 5min and try again. Keep the crate door closed after you come in, so that she can't go in and rehearse further bad behavior. Manage her environment, such that you set her up for success.
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Old 04-14-2012, 07:17 PM
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Re: Training not going well

We have a 10 week old, and while he is good most of the time, there are still accidents. If we see the accident happening or about to happen we pick him up and run him outside so he gets the idea. When he does his business outside by "telling" us....you'd think we won the lottery, he is praised soooo much from both of us and given his "high value" treat.
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Old 04-15-2012, 12:10 PM
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She is eating Nutro. It is a wire crate. When we first got her and she had an accident she would shake. We dont punish her for going in the house. Recently she had an accident she gets a towel and take it to the spot. She was check for worms at her appt. Thanks for the advice. We love our new family member.
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Old 04-15-2012, 04:24 PM
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Ok, so if she's going in a wire crate, maybe a plastic crate would be enough of a change that the practice would end.

BUt that said, I'd work with keeping the crate door shut, and her on leash when you come back in. that will prevent her from sneaking off somewhere to go. Then go back out and try again. :)
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Old 04-15-2012, 07:15 PM
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ARchon37, what kind of cleaner are you using in her crate? Make sure that you are getting the scent out fully with either bleach or one of the products sold to cut urine and feces odors completely. Also, you might want to completely move the crate to another location and bleach underneath the current location. This is the closest you can get to starting over.
Maybe if you bring something with the urine odor to an outdoor location, she will begin to associate the smells outdoors. Use the same location where you want her to urinate. When she does, praise her and bring her inside so she learns to do her business and gets rewarded.
Good luck! This stage take loads of patience!
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