Purina anyone????

[Davese]

I just started buying Purina Healthy Harvest for my two rotties. Is thiis food any good? I was feeding them the Eagle Pack Holistic Select® Anchovy, Sardine & Salmon Meal Formula but man this is getting expensive for 2 100+ lb rotties. They are 9 years old.

Thanks for your help.

[Shelby427]

I did a search and it didn't pull anything up. Did you mean Beneful Healthy Harvest? I personally wouldn't feed that crap to my dog. If it's Beneful Healthy Harvest that you're feeding, here are the ingredients:

Ground yellow corn, corn gluten meal, whole wheat flour, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E), soy protein concentrate, soybean meal, pearled barley, brewers rice, tricalcium phosphate, sugar, water, animal digest, sorbitol, phosphoric acid, salt, potassium chloride, L-Lysine monohydrochloride, calcium carbonate, sorbic acid (a preservative), dried spinach, dried sweet potatoes, dried apples, dicalcium phosphate, choline chloride, calcium propionate (a preservative), DL-Methionine, added color (Red 40, Yellow 5, Blue 2, Yellow 6), zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, Vitamin E supplement, manganese sulfate, Vitamin A supplement, niacin, Vitamin B-12 supplement, calcium pantothenate, riboflavin supplement, copper sulfate, biotin, garlic oil, thiamine hydrochloride, pyridoxine hydrochloride, thiamine mononitrate, folic acid, Vitamin D-3 supplement, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), calcium iodate, sodium selenite.

There isn't even a meat listed. If you're looking for a cheaper food, did you try Candiae? I get a 20lb bag of it for my two dogs and it only costs me $23. It lasts us about 3 weeks or so, give or take a few days.

[jlaack]

Your Rotts are 9 yo. They are probably in their final years. I would suck up the extra money on the food for the rest of their golden years. Rotties are very prone to cancer and by feeding them a poor quality diet you will be weakening their bodies thus making an opportunistic disease such as cancer likely to occur.

[Davese]

Originally Posted by jlaack

Your Rotts are 9 yo. They are probably in their final years. I would suck up the extra money on the food for the rest of their golden years. Rotties are very prone to cancer and by feeding them a poor quality diet you will be weakening their bodies thus making an opportunistic disease such as cancer likely to occur.

Ok, I'll stick to Eagle Pack Holistic Salmon, Anchovie, etc.... I can't believe they like something that smells that bad....lol but I guess it's not as bad as themselves and other dogs butts..

[jlaack]

Glad to hear! Plus wasn't Purina part of the big recall early in the year? Kidney failure isn't cheap either...

[Sam's Mom]

Originally Posted by jlaack

Your Rotts are 9 yo. They are probably in their final years. I would suck up the extra money on the food for the rest of their golden years. Rotties are very prone to cancer and by feeding them a poor quality diet you will be weakening their bodies thus making an opportunistic disease such as cancer likely to occur.

Please heed this advice....diet is a key issue....in longevity.

[Davese]

Originally Posted by Sam's Mom

Please heed this advice....diet is a key issue....in longevity.

I can suck up the cost and stick with the really stinky food they like. They seem always hungry though and I feed them 2 and 1/3 cups daily, The male is about 110lbs and the female is (hopefully) 90 or less. She just had Hip surgery, had a new hip put in, that did not take, they cut her again and put a larger head in and that didn't take so we decided (vet and I) to remove it all as if it did not take again I was NOT going to put her through a 4th operation.

She seems MUCH happier then before any surgery and of course now that it has been a month since the last surgery. The only problem left is her right elbow and that has such dysplaisia (sp) and she really limps. She is SUCH A LOVER though..... What a GREAT GIRL!!!!!!

Thanks for your advice and opinions.

PS. Does anyone know why they both want to eat dirt (muddy)? we have rabbits and cats that sometimes get into our back yard and I am sure they poo and pee and that may be what they are after... I know they both have eaten poop before many times.... AGHHHH

[brunie's mom]

Originally Posted by Davese

Ok, I'll stick to Eagle Pack Holistic Salmon, Anchovie, etc.... I can't believe they like something that smells that bad....lol but I guess it's not as bad as themselves and other dogs butts..

Do they have to be on a Fish formula?
What about Canidae? It's seems to be one of the better priced super premium foods.

Please stay away from any Purina foods....they tend to be of poor quality. You would probably have to feed them 5-6 cups of Beneful to get them enough calories...and then they would be pooping huge, corn piles.

It's not the price per bag...it should be price per feeding. Often the higher priced foods come out cheaper per feeding.

Gina

[spidey]

The only Purina foods which are reasonable to feed are some of the Pro Plan formulas (the Sensitive Skin & Stomach formula is actually a very good salmon-based food). Beneful and any of the Chows are crap full of corn, by products and artificial colors and flavors.

[Davese]

I'm sorry, the food was IAMS Healthy Naturals. Is this bad as well? My girl has runny poo now but that could be because we ran out of the Eagle pack and fed her this straight.

[VomWactherEngel]

You can pay the Grocer...or you can pay the Vet.

In the long run the best food is ALWAYs cheaper that vet care.

Spend the money on the beter food, years from now you'll be glad you did.

[jlaack]

Yes, the first several ingredients are waste: chicken by-product meal (feathers, beaks, feet) and corn meal. This will result in more poop and since the first ingredients listed are the majority of the food she will need to eat more to be healthy. Iams was definitely on the recall list--not sure about this variety specifically.

[fbkeays]

I went the IAM's website and clicked on the link for the Healthy Naturals and all I got was a bunch of marketing BS. I could not find any what the actual list of ingredients were on the website. If they try so hard to hide with slick advertising what is actually in the bag, then I would not feed it to my dog. Obviously the care and money went into advertising and not into the actual food.
I would stick with the Eagle Pack. As the saying goes, "don't fix what isn't broken".

[targonrotts]

i have fed purina and eukanuba for years without a problem.
i believe in a decent food on the higher end of the scale, if it works for them, it works for me.
i have known breeders who feed purina one to their kennel dogs and have lived to decent years without a problem...(example-11-14 yrs great danes).
just like i have seen on super high premium suffering from all types of allergies/stomach problems.
and vice versa.

as long as not on recall and they do good on it, that's what i feed.

[petes67bird]

Davese back to your previous post, you only feed your dogs 2 and 1/3 a cup "DAILY." I think your dogs would act hungry because they are in fact hungry. The 110lb Rottie from my guesstimates should be between 4-6 cups daily depending on the food. That would make the 2 1/3 cups per serving which should be once in the morning and once in the evening (Making it 2 servings and 4 2/3 total cups.) I am no nutrition expert but all the literature and feeding forums I have run across are around those figures. If someone with a little more knowledge than me would please chime in I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks and good luck Pete