what kibble ing. looks better to you?

[kritger]

natural balance or evolve? i have roz on evolve now. he has been eating it for about 8 months. he has done well on it but seems to be loosing his taste for it.i cant get canidae so i look for other options and to me natural balance looks to be a good one.
here are the ing. of the two.INGREDIENT LISTING
Chicken, Brown Rice, Duck, Lamb Meal, Oatmeal, Pearled Barley, Potatoes, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols-a source of Vitamin E, Citric Acid, and Rosemary Extract), Natural Flavor, Tomato Pomace, Canola Oil, Brewers Yeast, Lecithin, Choline Chloride, Carrots, Potassium Chloride, Flaxseed Oil, Dried Kelp, Salt, Parsley Flakes, Calcium Carbonate, Zinc Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin B-12 Supplements, Ascorbic Acid (vitamin C), Taurine, Yucca Schidigera Extract, L-Lysine, Manganese Sulfate, Niacin, Riboflavin Supplement (Vitamin B-2), Copper Proteinate, Grape Seed Oil, Copper Sulfate, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Acetate, Inositol, Folic Acid (Vitamin B, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B-6), Thiamin Mononitrate (Vitamin B-1), D-Activated Animal Sterol (source of Vitamin D-3), Biotin, Ethylene Diamine Dihydriodide (source of Iodine), Cobalt Sulfate, Menadione Sodium Bisulfate Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), Sodium Selenite.


GUARANTEED ANALYSIS

Crude Protein 23.0% minimum
Crude Fat 12.0% minimum
Crude Fiber 3.0% maximum
Moisture 10.0% maximum
Omega 3 Fatty Acids 0.5% minimum
Omega 6 Fatty Acids 3.0% minimum


Natural Balance is formulated to meet the nutritional levels established by the A.A.F.C.O. dog food nutrient profile for all life stages.

that is natural balance
MAINTENANCE FORMULA
INGREDIENTS: Lamb, Chicken Meal, Brown Rice, Brewers Rice, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols, ascorbic acid and Vitamin E), Chicken Digest, Rice Bran, Yogurt, Farmer's Cheese, Dried Skimmed Milk, Spinach, Green Split Peas, Tomatoes, Beets, Dried Whole Eggs, Fish Oil, Dried Brewers Yeast, Garlic, Parsley Oil, Probiotics (Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product dehydrated, Bifidobacterium thermophilium fermentation product dehydrated, Enterococcus faecium fermentation product dehydrated), Calcium Carbonate, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Choline Chloride, Zinc Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Oxide, Vitamin E Supplement, Manganese Sulfate, Calcium Pantothenate, Potassium Sulfate, Magnesium Sulfate, Magnesium Oxide, Magnesium Proteinate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Riboflavin Supplement, Sodium Selenite, Biotin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamin Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Vitamin A Acetate, D-activated Animal Sterol (a source of Vitamin D3), Copper Sulfate, Cobalt Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Calcium Iodate, Menedione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (a source of Vitamin K activity).


GUARANTEED ANALYSIS: this is evolve


MAINTENANCE
Crude Protein (not less than) 25%
Crude Fat (not less than) 15%
Crude Fiber (not more than) 5%
Moisture (not more than) 10%

opinions?

[DixieGrl113]

I don't know a lot about kibbles, I feed BARF. I can tell you what I like and don't like about each one though. The first one you listed (natural Balance?)...I like that it has 3 different meat sources of protein and some whole food ingredients. What I don't like that there are 4 different grains in the first 7 ingredients. That's too many for me. Also while it does have some whole food ingredients..ie dried kelp, parsely.. it doesn't have as many as I'd like.

In the second one you listed (Evolve) there is a better variety of whole foods and even probiotics added :) but I don't like the chicken digest or that the chicken fat is so far up on the ingredient list. JMHO. I haven't found a kibble yet that has everything I would feed and nothing I wouldn't. (Wellness comes very close, I had to feed it again this weekend) If I had to pick between the 2 you listed I would feed Evolve. The reason being the grains in the first one listed. One of my dogs has a problem with grains. I would have to buy a food I can feed her too. ;) Hope that helps you out some! :)

[DixieGrl113]

After re-reading your post I saw that you said you were thinking about swiching because your dog was losing his taste for your current food. I wouldn't switch if my dogs were starting to refuse to eat. By doing that you might be helping your dog develop into a picky eater. If you don't already, you could try fasting him for 1 day a week. Or try adding some fresh pulverized veggies for variety.

[rottnkidd]

I'll go one better! Why not add some fresh hamburger? an egg?
canned mackerel or salmon? There are alot of really neat ways
to enhance kibble! Before I switched to a 100% raw, grain-free diet, I added a variety of fresh foods to my girl's food. When she
started leaving the kibble in the bowl, I knew it was time to switch
;-)
kathy

[Roscoe's dad]

I have the same problem with Guido, she gets real picky with here veggies. I have to add sardines and mush them up in her veggies on some mornings. If she doesn't eat her veggies she does not get her chicken in the evening.

[DixieGrl113]

The first one you listed (natural Balance?)...I like that it has 3 different meat sources of protein and some whole food ingredients. What I don't like that there are 4 different grains in the first 7 ingredients.

I should not have said 4 grains..potatoes are not grains. I still wouldn't be too enthusiastic about having them so high up on the ingredient list..

I always mix in something with their veggies...fish, organ meat, ground deer or lamb. Even though its their AM meal (usually when mine are the hungriest) they wouldn't touch their veggies with out some kind of meat in there. Now fruit...that's a different story. Sometimes I think they like melons and bananas better than chicken. Add yogurt to the fruit and you can see the drool hanging while I'm mixing. :D

[kritger]

after reading your opinions i will stick with the evolve and try to add a couple of things to keep him interested. thanks!