Garlic,Brewers Yeast and Fleas?

[mccoy]

I was wondering so I did a search on
Apple cider vinegar, garlic and Brewers
Yeast for Fleas...

I read the threads but could not find a
exact amount for any of the above. How
much does everyone use? I would like to
know the difference or the reason behind
the unfiltered vinegar?

Just thought I would get mine started
on it before "Flea Season" get here.:(
I tried the Frontline but I didn't have
very good results....

I'm also trying to figure out what is
best to spray my lawn with? That is what
little I have left...lol...maybe I should rephrase that to ground.:D

[DixieGrl113]

I crush 1 good sized clove of garlic at meal times and add it to their food every other day. The ACV i have is unpastuerized/raw. I add 1/2 cup to the veggie glop that I have thawed for the week. (4 dogs worth) This is also when I add Blackstrap molasses etc.. The next week however, I'll feed just plain old veggies with nothing added. I would use about a teaspoon of ACV a day for each dog if I didn't prepare a week at a time. I'm also wondering how much everyone else uses. I don't know if you have Kroger grocery stores in your area, but this is where I find a lot of nutrional supplements. The one I shop at has a great natural/whole food selection.

I never used to use Brewers Yeast because I have a dog with allergies. But after more study I decided to give it a try and it hasn't had any adverse effects. I didn't know it was helpful with fleas. I use it for its nutrtional properties. I'll give you a quote from one of my books. This might give you a little more information.

*Holistic Guide for a Healthy Dog* Wendy Volhard & Kerry Brown DVM

pg 46-47

" Nutritional yeast is generally grown on molasses. Brewer's yeast comes from hops. These are nonactive forms of yeast and provide extra B vitamins, protein, trace minerals and salts. Both kinds of yeast contain chromium and selenium to the diet and are crucial to its over all balance...Many cases of allergic reactions to brewer's yeast have been reported. My experience shows me this is true only when a dog is fed a food with insufficient animal protein. Lack of animal protein, specifically the amino acid L-Lysine produces the 'allergy', which is in itself is a deficiency in disguise."

[mccoy]

Jo,

Thanks for the information it really
helped especially about the Brewer's
Yeast...I have been wanting to start
my dogs on BARF and have really tried
doing research but was wondering if
some of you could give me a easy recipe
to start with.:)

Everyone has such good things to say
about this type of diet. What kind of
meats and veggies are the easiest on
their digestive system???

Do I go total Barf or gradually????
They are getting Nutro now, what do I
start with we have 6 Rotties and I do
not want to go to fast and get their
systems all screwed up.

[angel_messenger]

I've never given vinegar before, but as far as the brewer's yeast and garlic, are you giving the powder? If so, here's what I do. Give 1 tsp. per 10 lbs. weight, but spread it over 2 or 3 meals, however many you feed. Mix it into their food. BTW, I had a show person tell me that adding 1 raw egg to their food improves their coats. What do you think?

[mccoy]

[quote]Originally posted by angel_messenger: BTW, I had a show person tell me that adding 1 raw egg to their food improves their coats. What do you think?

I do give raw eggs once a week and you
can tell a difference in the coat. I
also crush up the shells sometimes and
give them.

[rottlove]

Be careful giving your dogs too much garlic. This study links it to immune-mediated hemolytic anemia, a devastating auto immune disease that weakens and kills suddenly.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

[rottlove]

however it does say that none of the dogs developed IMHA. but I gave my dog garlic powder and she died of it, with no other apparent factors.

[mccoy]

rottlove,

Sorry to hear about your girl. I know
what it's like to lose them, I think
I'll research this a little more before starting them on it....

There are alot of people on the forum that feed garlic to their dogs I wonder
if they have ever read the article???

[rottlove]

Well, I think this study is a little obscure, and they were giving concentrated garlic in large amounts. But, onions and IMHA have come up before on this forum -- and onions are definitely related to garlic, both in the lily family. But lots of dog food and treats have a little garlic in them for seasoning, so it can't be that bad or we'd have an epidemic!

Thanks for your kind words. I wish I had been on this chat forum at the time my girl was sick -- the support is so wonderful.

[CarolineS]

I read the article and calculated that I'd have to feed Maggie about 4 bulbs (not cloves, but whole bulbs) of garlic per day to simulate the amount fed in that experiment. That's a whole bunch of garlic and I doubt many people feed their dog that much. After Maggie has had a flare-up of IBD and her appetite is flagging, I always sprinkle a little garlic powder on her food to perk her appetite back up. Works every time. :) I'm sure a little bit of garlic every now and then doesn't do any harm, but, like onions, grapes and raisins, don't feed a lot over any length of time. Good article, thanks for alerting us and posting it. :)

[DixieGrl113]

I posted something else about the garlic amounts but I don't see it. I did read the article, it did not impress me. Like Caroline said, the amounts were concentrated and excessive. I would feel safe giving them each a fresh crushed clove everyday. As for eggs, they each get a whole raw egg with shells every other day in their veggie glop. It is great for their coats but its not going to make much of a difference if your feeding a poor quality food. Eggs are great for their amino acid content. The shells are good for their calcium. I include eggs, garlic, raw ACV and brewer's yeast regularly in my BARF meal plans. I also like to use Unsulphated Blackstrap Molasses, raw honeycomb, and cold pressed extra virgin olive oil.

[DixieGrl113]

If your interested in BARF, the best thing you can do is clear a spot on the desk and get ready to study. Get some books, visit web sites, do internet searches on BARF. I don't have a lot of the links I used to (since I'm not a beginner anymore and i needed the space)but I'll give the relevent ones I have. Also, while doing your search online, visit the NJboxers site. Its a good one.

www.barfers.com
www.healthierpets.com

Look into a good food processor. And by good I mean a good quality, powerful one. It'll really save time on your veggie prep day. Start with the softer bones like chicken necks, backs, wings for your RMBs. All veggies have to be put through a food processor to break down the plant cellulose so it can be digested. Good Luck! Start studying. You might want to add some grains to your meals. I don't. I do use dairy though with no problems.:) Make sure you do your research. You have to make sure that the diet will be balanced since you're not pouring from a bag anymore. Have a chemistry screen done a year with your dogs bloodwork. That will let you know if your on the right track or doing damage. The smart thing to do would be to get a chem screen before you start so you have a reference point. Again good luck and Happy BARFing

[BostonRott]

5 GRAMS of garlic per kg of body weight?!?!? Holy garlic batman!!!!

To get to kilos, divide your dog's weight by 2.2, and then for every kilo, give 5g of whole garlic? I don't think my store stocks that much.

I'm sorry, but talk about an inane study........gee, if I ate 40lbs of chocolate per day, do we think I might develop a few problems???

No to mention, this was given "intragastrically" which means it was put straight into the stomach, somehow. Not orally. Again.......this emulates what??

And a population size of 8 is a study with absolutely no statistical power. Complete crock. And I analyze studies in cardiology as a consultant.......believe me, this one holds little water.