Breeders introduce Tailess Rotts to Sydney

[Deems36]

Can anyone shed any light on this.

I have a friend who claims a friend of his purchased a tailess pup from a registered breeder here in Sydney.

The breeder claims they are genitically bred (I guess thats the sales pitch)

I have read up on the the debatable attributes of such breeding here on the forums, but any news specific to Australia would be much appreceiated.

Cheers

[JD102175]

There are some lines that do produce naturally bobbed tails, so it is a possibilty. Although I do not think it would occur with every pup in every litter.

Jaime

[TrishB]

Originally Posted by JD102175

There are some lines that do produce naturally bobbed tails, so it is a possibilty. Although I do not think it would occur with every pup in every litter.

Jaime

Agreed. I would question however why that would be the priority of a breeder rather than temperament or drive or ability. It's like concentrating on the wrapping instead of what's IN the present.

[Anne]

I guess it's because as from July last year tail docking was made illegal in Australia. I believe in one state it is legal if performed by a vet providing that vet can show good reason for it being done.

I would say that's why it has become an issue.

[Deems36]

Agreed. I intend on contacting this breeder with a view to seek further information.

If you were me and were considering a natural bobtail Rot, what questions would you be asking?

[TrishB]

Originally Posted by Deems36

Agreed. I intend on contacting this breeder with a view to seek further information.

If you were me and were considering a natural bobtail Rot, what questions would you be asking?

The same questions you'd ask a regular breeder. Titles, temperament, linage, workability, drive, type, health, certification, etc.

I'd make sure it was everything that you'd want, plus a natural bob tail - not a bob tail instead of everything you'd want.

[Ann Felske-Jackman]

I had the pleasure of spending a week with John Belbin last month. We discussed the natural bobtails at length as it was a very interesting topic to me (I personally have never encounted a natural bobtail Rottweiler). You can read further about the occurrances of this trait within John's breeding program on their website at Please do not post breeder sites

[Jimdeez]

Tyson was born without a tail, he was the only one in the litter born like that and first one the breeder had ever born like that. So unless the breeder was lying, which I dont think he would lie about something like that anyway I guess it is possible for rotts to be born without a tail.

[poohbearsmom]

http://www.rottweiler.net/forums/sho...ght=born+tails

Food for thought. There are several other threads on this subject in the archives as well.

[Ann Felske-Jackman]

Whoops, sorry. But there was very good information about Bobtails from a breeder who found numerous occurrences in their program and gave insight on why they did not continue to try to breed for this trait. I do understand about not linking to breeder sites, however, sometimes a breeder's site is where the most pertinent information is to be found. Not every breeder is trying to sell puppies via their websites. Many are actually trying to help educate.

[beledi]

Originally Posted by Anne

I guess it's because as from July last year tail docking was made illegal in Australia. I believe in one state it is legal if performed by a vet providing that vet can show good reason for it being done.

I would say that's why it has become an issue.

So would it be legal if the people owned a working cattle dog? In the area of the country where I live, a lot of ranchers dock the tail of the dogs they use with cattle. I have a boder/aussie mix and the whole litter had the tails docked.

Beledi/Erda's mom

[JD102175]

Originally Posted by beledi

So would it be legal if the people owned a working cattle dog? In the area of the country where I live, a lot of ranchers dock the tail of the dogs they use with cattle. I have a boder/aussie mix and the whole litter had the tails docked.

Beledi/Erda's mom

From what I understand, from an Aussie forum I frequent, it would still be illegal. If the dogs tail were injured and needed to be taken off due to injury then there would not be an issue as it would be a medical, not cosmetic, surgery.

Jaime