what is the difference between German bred and American bred???

[AndOne707]

I have heard, and from what some breeders claim there should be..
what are the difference between a German bred Rott and an American bred rott ?
aside from what I understand can be the size of the dog, is there anything else??
I really haven't read much on the differences among the 2, your help is appreciated, thanks!

[Bosko]

Other than a couple thousand miles, not much. One is born in the US and the Other Germany. The difference you speak of usally comes from a dog bred to standard and one that isn't (i.e way oversized).

[AndOne707]

reason I ask, aside the obvious is because of some of the price tags u see when trying to purchase a puppy from one that claims german bred rott's.
I mean, are u guys willing to pay into the 3k to 4k range? ...some of the breeders I have encounter amaze me at the price they charge for a pup now n days.
I would figure there would be a bit more of differences than what has been mentioned...

[stale]

there is no difference - the standard is the standard, wherever you go - well, aside from the states and the tail thing, anyway.

what you may be seeing is people wanting you to pay more for a german pedigree, but one would expect them to be clearer on this.

but, no, there are no two subsets of the rottweiler. there's just the rotti, no matter where they are from.

[AngelBunny]

Originally Posted by AndOne707

...what are the difference between a German bred Rott and an American bred rott ?...

Germany Rottweilers are born in Germany and have tails. American Rottweilers are born in the US and their tails are docked.

Here's the FCI standard.

Here's the AKC standard.

You'll note their similarity. That's because the AKC standard was based on the FCI standard.

Anyone who tells you there's a difference--as in German Rotties have heavier bone, blockier heads, darker markings, or some such--is either speaking from ignornace or engaging in a snow job.

[moondog]

Originally Posted by AndOne707

I mean, are u guys willing to pay into the 3k to 4k range?

For a PUPPY? Hell, no.

I have an American Rottweiler, born in Boston. Her sire is a German import, her dam is a Dutch import, she is a beautiful, talented dog that loves working.....and I paid a fraction of what you are being quoted.

Originally Posted by AndOne707

I would figure there would be a bit more of differences than what has been mentioned...

You'd think, wouldn't you......but there IS only one standard for the Rottweiler.

[Skip]

Originally Posted by AngelBunny

Germany Rottweilers are born in Germany and have tails. American Rottweilers are born in the US and their tails are docked.

......

More and more breeders in the US are starting to leave tails on also.

[bigdogweilerx2]

Originally Posted by AngelBunny

Germany Rottweilers are born in Germany and have tails. American Rottweilers are born in the US and their tails are docked.

Here's the FCI standard.

Here's the AKC standard.

You'll note their similarity. That's because the AKC standard was based on the FCI standard.

Anyone who tells you there's a difference--as in German Rotties have heavier bone, blockier heads, darker markings, or some such--is either speaking from ignornace or engaging in a snow job.

Tail does not mean it's German.Only if it's born in and from German parants

[AngelBunny]

Originally Posted by bigdogweilerx2

Tail does not mean it's German.Only if it's born in and from German parants

I didn't say that anymore than I said a docked tail means the Rottie is American.

What I said is that German Rottweilers are born in Germany and have tails.

[AndOne707]

I was a bit shocked when I heard the price from different breeders...loll I couldn't believe it..I understand that time and money is invested when doing ofa and hd testing..
top quality show dogs.
its ashame that recommended breeders and experiences with X

[Moosemom]

Re: difference between German and American bred? I am glad to see this discussion. I have had a deposit on a "German" puppy for several months now...a good sized deposit. The breeder said she had 3 moms bred, due in late March. I had to email her to check on the puppies and she said nobody had gotten pregnant... and never even notified me.(sounding funny huh?) I questioned her about the deposit and she said she'd send it back but if we wanted a puppy, we'd lose our place in line for first male and maybe not get one at all. Hers are "German" lines; some of their markings are not distinct so I'm wondering if I better back out and start over. She also said that since ALL of her dogs were show quality, that I wouldn't have a choice of puppies. I sent in deposit first, so I got first born male. Does this make any sense to anyone? She did show me "papers" of their ancestors but I'm not educated on this so I was really confused. I visited her kennel and it was very clean and neat and had good facilities for the dogs but somewhere in the back of my mind I'm wondering if this is the right choice. The breeder is "older" (70's) and has been doing this for 30 years but still I wonder....any thoughts?

[skigod377]

Yup, there is no difference, though, as already pointed out, the Germans dont dock the tails over here anymore.

[SABELLESMOM]

Actually, I don't believe Germany is the only country that bans tail docking anymore. But I'd have to do a search to be certain.

I understand that time and money is invested when doing ofa and hd testing.. top quality show dogs.

It's wise to remember, not every pup in a litter can be a "top quality show dog" tho their parents may well have achieved the status. Sadly, there are occasionally, despite dilligent testing and honest endeavors, pups born to good OFA, heart certified, eye certified, show quality parents...who end up with a defect. There are good respectible COE breeders doing their level best. But one small unknown gene + one other small unknown gene in 2 very good breeding dogs... can end up with a pup with a heart defect, or HD. It happens, in both countries.

[Maxxx]

I'm pretty sure all of Europe doesn't allow the docking of tails..

[Bucky's Mom]

Originally Posted by AngelBunny

Anyone who tells you there's a difference--as in German Rotties have heavier bone, blockier heads, darker markings, or some such--is either speaking from ignornace or engaging in a snow job.

And they are BANKING on you thinking that "German" means thousands of dollars. Also - keep in mind that many "breeders" import lightly titled dogs that wash out of European breeding programs just to be able to say "German born sire" and charge the unwary outrageous amounts