Confused!!!! Plz Help Me!!!!!

[abbrevertal7]

Hello all,

I, like the original poster, am also from India. Its unlikely he is a poser 'cause I have seen a lot of people type like that. The scenerio with regard to breeders and dogs is really quite sad. Firstly almost 60% - 70% of the breeders here are BYB and only breed for profit. Hips certification, elbow certification etc. are seldom done here for the parents.

I have two rotts, both BYBs from different breeders because I was unaware of all these terminologies and my research was kind of poor because I just wanted to being a puppy home as soon as possible.

Both my dogs live inside and thats where they will be staying. However, the mentality that prevails here is that dogs are dogs and must be made to live outside. About 60% - 70% of the dogs here are purely outdoor dogs or dogs brought for the sole purpose of "guarding".

Just wanted to give you guys an overview of the Indian scenario and try and make you understand where the OP is coming from. There are plenty of people just like him over here.

[Anne]

Originally Posted by spawn207

I am a new owner of a rotti pup. I did alot of research before I decided in getting him. They saw that first owners shouldn't get one as a first pet, but I think it depends on the individual, if you're willing to put in the time and effort that they need. They are really good dogs and very protective of their terriotory. You should do some research and decide if the rottweiler is right for you.

It takes more than time and effort to have your Rottweiler be a good representative of the breed. There is nothing better than to own a well trained, well cared for Rottweiler and this takes knowledge and commitment from the owner. Research should also reveal whether or not you are the right owner for a Rottweiler.

There is training, for a start. Anyone who is not prepared to educate themselves and find an experienced trainer who will teach them how to train their dog would be best not to own a Rottweiler or a GSD for that matter.
There is also the issue of health and nutrition.

Ahmed, how much do you know about the training, health and nutritional requirements of a Rottwelier or any breed of dog? It appears you have no idea of the breed or the correct temperament of a Rottweiler even though you state you have done a lot of research.

I have had Rottweilers for 23 years and I have a lot to learn. You never stop learning if you are a responsible and dedicated owner. We owners of Rottweilers are not only responsible for our own dogs, we are responsible for the reputation of the entire breed. One irresponsible owner gives the whole breed a bad rap.

[ahmedhanif007]

Originally Posted by psychosid77

Just know that any dog, rot, gsd or whatever will all take a lot of training. Some breeds are a little tougher to deal with as they are strong minded and/or have an abundance of energy. But any dog will take time to train. And any breed can become aggressive if you don't raise it right, even those breeds that are not known to be violent. Just do as much research as you can before you get a dog, and if you still choose to get one, continue to devote a lot of time to him/her. It will get frustrating at times. I'm curious to know by the way, how much does a Rot or GSD cost over there as a puppy? Is the Rotti a common dog over there? Just curious to know.

Yup rotti is a common breed here in india, a good rott pup of show quality starts from arnd Rs.16000 (400$ aprrox) and to get a champion bloodline then sky is the limit and a nice bloodline GSD costs around Rs. 5000 (around 125$ aprrox).........well guys sorry for my spellings, i m used 2 dis type of lingo...........To be honest few weeks back i zeroed on a GSD pair n was very much thrilled n passionate about them, but a vry good frnd of mine who owns an american staffordshier terrier pair asked me to go for rott coz GSD's r really very common here in india, den i changed my mind and was ready for a rott.......... but wen i read articles here on rottweiler.net regarding rotties trying to bite their owners, then honestly i was a bit scared......... and asked 4 ur help............ well my father has a good xperience of owning dogs, wen i was 2 yrs old we had a GSD but unfortunately someone poisoned him wen he was 5 yrs old (these things r very common here)......... actly now dis dog will b whole soul mine......... still i'll b going for a GSD coz pals everyone has a first time..........

Originally Posted by Anne

Ahmed, how much do you know about the training, health and nutritional requirements of a Rottwelier or any breed of dog? It appears you have no idea of the breed or the correct temperament of a Rottweiler even though you state you have done a lot of research.

well honestly i dont hav any experience.......... we have some of our training techniques here in india which we call as DESI techniques............ thnx once again frnds for lending ur precious time.........

[TrinaJ]

Originally Posted by ahmedhanif007

wen i was 2 yrs old we had a GSD but unfortunately someone poisoned him wen he was 5 yrs old (these things r very common here).........

And you want to keep it outside??? ~*just shakes my head in disgust*~

[ahmedhanif007]

Originally Posted by TrinaJ

And you want to keep it outside??? ~*just shakes my head in disgust*~

Listen earlier my back yard was not fenced n now it is properly fenced....... no stranger can even come near...........

[sweetlee]

I really wish you would consider a guinea pig. They are easy to keep, sweet tempered, and don't require quite as much time as a dog. They still need affection and attention though, but will not turn mean or aggressive without it.
Seriously, there are not many dogs that do well living outside, and especially not a rottie or GSD, my two favorite breeds. They are my favorites, because I have put time into training and bonding to them. When raised right, either of them are wonderful and loyal pets. When thrown into the yard alone, either will become bored or aggressive. Neither is a "mean" breed.
I love their temperaments, they are both fairly calm, if excersised and challenged properly, not naturally aggressive, which is not the same as naturally protective.
You don't have a clue about either of these breeds, or any other dog for that matter. Even labs, and goldens need to be inside with their owners. My sister's husband owns three labs for hunting and they live outside in a kennel and are pretty much ignored except for hunting season, and they are pretty neurotic, misbehaved and destructive for it.
Guinea pigs however make great pets and thrive on treats from the fridge, and being let out to run around the house for short periods of time.
If you still think you want a GSD please find a board about them, and you will find that one of those is probably not for you either.

Sharon

[ahmedhanif007]

Actually conditions here in india are quite different as compared to the western countries, my back yard is totally fenced, and there is a lot of space for the dogs, if u ppl do get any chance of visiting india then u'll come 2 knw all dis........... regarding xperience..........there is always a first time....... and i believe if u have the passion for any animal u can hav it......... one of my frnd who owns a pair of american staffordshier terrier told me 2 go for rott and i was ready for it............ i read on internet also abt their exercise, feeding, care, temperament,behaviour etc etc.......... but wen i read here in the forums i became a bit sceptical whether 2 go for rott or GSD as my previous choice was GSD..............i knw dog is family pet n shud remain in the house but dis is d way many of us live with our dogs........ actly my first post was a bit misguiding............ i just wanted to ask whether rott is a good breed for first time owners or not???????????................ n regarding guinea pigs........ i had them around 10 yrs ago.............. dis will b my first dog.......... so plz just answer my simple question whether rottweiler is suitable for first time owners or not?????????

[harleychik66]

Please don't get any dogs. Hubby and I have both a rottie and a GSD. Both dogs would be lost in the yard without us out there. In my opinion having had both breeds the GSDs have actually been more needy for attention than the rotties.

I'm not trying to sound judgemental, but it really doesn't sound as if you have a clue as to what owning a dog entails. Please don't use the excuse that everyone in your country keeps dogs outside. Just because "everyone" is doing it does not make it right. Many people over here keep them outside and as sweetlee said they are neurotic, misbehaved and destructive. Not to mention poorly socialized and in most cases become the disposable dog that winds up at the shelter.

It sounds as if your mind is already made up(unfortunately). If this is the case please do far more reasearch and strive to be a better owner than the majority of people in your country.

[Anne]

Originally Posted by ahmedhanif007

........ actly my first post was a bit misguiding............ i just wanted to ask whether rott is a good breed for first time owners or not???????????.. dis will b my first dog.......... so plz just answer my simple question whether rottweiler is suitable for first time owners or not?????????

I think you have been given the answer to your question by just about everyone who has replied. Just to clarify....the answer is NO. A Rottweiler would not be suitable for you.

[crazyonehuh]

Originally Posted by abbrevertal7

I, like the original poster, am also from India. Its unlikely he is a poser 'cause I have seen a lot of people type like that.

The term "poser" isn't directly stated for typing ability alone. And I am not one to lay unintentional insults to unsuspecting people. But to have an individual take the time to sign up for a rottweiler forum only to state that he wants to get a dog, not to mention a Rott, without doing any research whatsoever is pure ignorance. Having a Rottweiler does not put you into a differnt social status. It doesn't make you a respectable person and it doesn't make you a good person just because you have a certain type dog. A person does not just show up on these forums only to say he wants one ( a rott ) and then say he knows nothing about the breed its self. That is like me coming to your county and saying that I want to wear a bindi. It just SHOULD NOT happen! Eduacation is the key to success in nearly all aspects of the world. NOT being educated about our loving breed is only going to cause harm for the aniamal. And as dog owner's, we take that responsability seriously. As should every potential dog owner!!!!!!!!

[kilasmamix3]

The answer is !NO! don't get a Rottweiler. I can tell it is not the breed for you. At all. Especially not if your a first time owner. You seem so ignorant; and i'm 18; i should know. But i've owned dogs ALL my life. that's 18 years. Sorry; but know. This is my second rottie, and my 3rd pitbull. So please just don't consider a GSD or Rottweiler. I had a GSD also. And 3 boxers. So please, rethink this. NO. I am sorry.

Dezaree

[bigdogweilerx2]

THE ANSWER IS NO! and that includes all dogs except a statue of one!

[tinks]

At The End Of The Day He Isnt Listening To Anybody Is He .living In India Probaly Be 2 Hot For A Rott Anyway. My Rott Loves It In The Shade An As To Your Comment On The Dog Will Get Your Time It Also Needs A Leader A Rott Is A Clever Dog If Your A Inexperinsed Dog Owner A Rott Will Be Your Leader If Your Gonna Go Ahead And Get A Rott Which I Think You Are .even Hearin All These Peoples Replys And The People On Here Are Tellin You Not 2 Get A Rott A Few Weeks Down Line You Will Want To Get Rid Of Your Dog Which Isnt Fair On The Dog .dogs Have Feeling I Have Seen It Many Time Before People Get This Silly Idea They Want A Dog When They Havnt Even Had A Cat Before Neva Mind A Dog Then All Of A Sudden The Dog Gets To Much To Handle Then Guess Wat Yep The Dog As To Go And The Dog Will Be Scared Gettin Passed About From One Owner To The Next Its Not Fair On The Dog So Remember A Rott Needs More Than Just Time

[ahmedhanif007]

well guys thnx for your stern advices....... but i m prepared for it............ on ur advice i m not considering rott but will be buying a GSD pair, n will be making a nice home for them in my back yard, actly the work has started n wil be completed very soon......... i will be highly grateful if u ppl suggest me some good websites for both Rottweiler n GSD which u think will b useful for me..............

[moondog]

Originally Posted by ahmedhanif007

actly my first post was a bit misguiding............ i just wanted to ask whether rott is a good breed for first time owners or not???????????............. dis will b my first dog.......... so plz just answer my simple question whether rottweiler is suitable for first time owners or not?????????

I thought that's what you did ask in your first post. The answer is NO. For each subsequent time you ask it, the answer is still NO.

Originally Posted by ahmedhanif007

i will be highly grateful if u ppl suggest me some good websites for both Rottweiler n GSD which u think will b useful for me..............

You've already found the best Rottweiler website. Can't help you on the GSD, but there's always Google.