What to expect

[Louis22208]

Im picking up my little guy in 2 weeks and I was wondering what size to expect fully grown. His dad is 28" and weighs 140.. His mom is 26" weighing 115.. and where can I find a collar that will be fitting him ?

[kanesmommy]

His parents seem large. Is this a COE breeder that has done all health testing?

[Louis22208]

Yes. He is there biggest male

[AngelBunny]

Originally Posted by Louis22208

Im picking up my little guy in 2 weeks...His dad is 28" and weighs 140.. His mom is 26" weighing 115...where can I find a collar that will be fitting him ?

Instead of worrying about where to find a collar to fit your future behemoth, you should be worrying about the fact his parents are out of standard.

Only BYBs breed out of standard dogs.

Here's the AKC standard. And least your breeder give you a song and dance about his or her stock being "German" Rottweilers when you call him or her up and say, "Hey. I just read on RDN that my puppy's parents are out of standard and shouldn't be bred," here's the FCI standard.

I strongly urge you to spend time reading the postings in Breeding to educate yourself about what real, bona fide, COE, responsible breeders do. You'll learn what questions to ask a breeder, what questions the breeder should be asking you, and what to look for when you visit a breeder.

[damp]

Originally Posted by Louis22208

Im picking up my little guy in 2 weeks and I was wondering what size to expect fully grown. His dad is 28" and weighs 140.. His mom is 26" weighing 115.. and where can I find a collar that will be fitting him ?

I would expect something like a giraffe/hippopotamus cross
I guess home depots sell chains by the metre. If you are a bit handy, you can make your own collar!!!

[Louis22208]

Dangit He won't fit the standard?! Better call him Xerxes because he's elite status.. Good idea damp, thanks for answering my question! I bet I can find some good collars there..

[SABELLESMOM]

Oh dear. Too bad. Both parents are out of standard dogs, and should not be used as breeding stock. Dogs (males) should be between 24-27" at the whithers, and bitches between 22-25". The fact that "he's their biggest male," has absolutely nothing to do with being a COE breeder. Being bigger is not a favor, nor desirable for this breed. It seems the larger the breed, any breed, the greater the likelihood for dysplasia.

COE= Code of ethics. Health testing would include things like OFA ratings, heart and eye certifications... not how 'big" the dog is. I truly wish you had come to this forum before choosing your breeder. There are many articles already witten on what to look for in a truly reputable breeder. Sadly, breeding out of standard size dogs, puts your breeder into the BYB category. I hope your dog does not beset with health and physical problems as time passes. There's always luck, I suppose.

Still knowing there may be problems down the road may prompt you to seek early intervention. For example you can have many of these health certs done on your dog. No I don't mean a simple vet visit.

There is a very sensitive stethescope, not all vets have as the first step in ruling out heart problems. Some pups have valve problems. A good breeder would have had the parents tested and know the history of the grandparents, as well as keep track of and litter's he has produced so far.

When he's old enough, after he's 2, you can get hip x-rays for OFA. Check you area when a breed club or club is sponsoring an eye certification clinic. Do yourself and you dog a favor. Get these things done for him. You need to know he's as healthy as can be. Some problems, if detected early, can be more successfully addressed. I hope your dog is good to go, but it's wise to check., right?

[Louis22208]

ITS A FREAK ACCIDENT!!!! I mean the first humans to be 6' 5" were surely a mistake and not a "standard" human I think his grandparents were Back Yard Breeders for sure...

Each parent is 1 inch above standard.. okay so i guess my dream (ha) of showing them is shot... darn. My pups parents and three generations before have been OFA certified after two years.

Saying he is the biggest male has nothing to do with my choice in puppy... just a fact. Im sorry if his size offends your rottweiler standards, even some humans (shaq) are not standard, they are just beastly.

I plan on getting him checked out at 2 years for OFA ceritfication. There is a health gurantee ( not the kind where they just trade you for a puppy ) Lifetime support, and TONS of great feedback from owners of their pups. That means they confirm good health, great temperment, great build, and most are AKC CGC certified.

Anyway everybody simmer down on the 1 inch difference he has a champion bloodline, very healthy parents, a great enviroment, a knowledgable breeder, and great family health history (HISTORY OF HEALTH 12 years + FOR THOSE "non standard" COMPANIONS....

ANYWAY if anybody else knows where I can find a sturdy and large collar with a little bit of swagger maybe, let me know... DO NOT HATE ON MY DOG!!

**HATING IS NOT ALLOWED ON THIS THREAD**
(dont say my dog will have health problems because your dog is not as big as you wanted)

[leanershnitzel]

I think when you say "do not hate on my dog" you mean "do not tell me what i don't want to hear".
If you don't have him yet it's not to late to back out. Even if you have a deposit..Run Away! Why take a chance on a pup that's bred from out of standard parents.
A few weeks of reading on this site will arm you with the Knowledge to make a educated choice. This pup may very well work out fine, but why not stack the deck in your favour.
I personally wouldn't take the chance with my companion for the next ten years. Anyway, not telling you what to do, or "hating".....JMHO

ps. I'm quite happy with the size of my dog thank you very much

[zorro13]

Call me crazy, but you can usually find dog collars at pet stores!!!

[jazzking1971]

what do you want such a big dog? And why are you concerned with buying an adult collar now? If you don't have the pup yet, I'd do some research and find another pup from a better breeder.

[SABELLESMOM]

So what was your original purpose in coming here then? Surely you knew pet stores carry collars for Mastiffs as well as Yorkies? Any mathmetician is capable of averaging the heights/weights of his parents and factor in a sex differential? He'll probably be close to his father's size.

No. You did not come here to ask a serious question. You came here as a troll. Perhaps you were bored or have no real life, so you insist on gleening a bit of your own brand of fun... to see how much you can stir a pot, and incite strenuous argument. A deliberate trouble maker, you see? Some Trolls even create a second or third identity, so they can add to the fun making. Tried that yet?

Let me tell you we are very adept here at recognizing a troll when we see one. If that's true, go bother some other forum... unless you are seriously interested in getting the right answers.

One last thing, about your champion bloodlines. You can't have a Champion unless he, himself, is within the standards. His parents are not so they cannot be champions... Having a few champions scattered about in his lineage is nice, but means very little. Your breeder is breeding for size. It doesn't mean he's not personable and pursuasive, it just means he knows squat.

This wouldn't mean you don't have a nice, intellegent dog you will love. It does not mean you can't get some titles after his name. An obedience, agility, carting, herding, rally or schutzhund title perhaps? Takes work, but you could do it.

Many here have made the mistake of going to a BYB. Some will be happy to share their stories, if you decide to turn around your trolling into being an active and sincere participant with us here. We'd be glad to have you, if that's what you decide. No one hates your dog. We l-o-v-e dogs here!

[debbiej]

Advice was given to try to help you avoid the heartache that comes from buying a pup that is more likely to have serious problems than a pup bred by someone who cares enough about the breed to do it right. Size is part of conformation, just as important as markings or other physical attributes. Your comments are like saying it doesn't matter what color the rottweiler is.

[Shelby427]

Why are you getting a dog from a BYB? If you know they are out of standard, it means that the "breeders" don't care about the rottweiler breed. If they are true breeders, they wouldn't have dogs that are over standard. I suggest you run from this "breeder" and find a real, COE breeder. There are many other problems that can come about when you don't do your research and get a dog from a BYB.

Are you prepared (financially and emotionally) to have a dysplastic dog? Or a dog with a heart murmur? Or goes blind in a year?

You are ignorant to say not to hate your dog because dogs aren't as large as we want them???!?!? WHAT? Do you know anything about this breed?

Ugh.

[Silvermarten]

Originally Posted by Louis22208

Im picking up my little guy in 2 weeks and I was wondering what size to expect fully grown. His dad is 28" and weighs 140.. His mom is 26" weighing 115.. and where can I find a collar that will be fitting him ?

Wait on getting a big collar until he's a big dog.
I only say this because I bought a couple of fancy big collars for Henry when he was a pup thinking he'd grow into them. Sire 120lb , dam 95lb , nice big blocky rotts . Don't know their heights but appeared within standard. Henry ended up 25.25" at the withers.
Well big parents don't always make big offspring. Henry ended up being 72lb soaking wet . He's a lean turbo racing rott and those nice collars ended up on Ebay .

Some nice collars can be found on Ebay. Also try a google search for large dog fancy collars and you'll come up with lots of options.

Glad to hear you have a health guarentee on the pup. At a minimum it should cover heart, eyes , hips and elbows through at least 2.5yrs . As OFA hips/elbows cann't be done until 2yrs it's good to have a little longer of a guarentee than the 'standard' 2yrs so that you have chance to have films taken, submitted and get results before his guarentee expires. I've heard of breeders not honoring their guarentee because the dog was 2 yrs and 1 week when the films were taken so in their opinion the guarentee had expired ( clearly not good breeders !!! )
Hopefully you won't need it but as has been expressed on the forum , there is a concern for possable increased health issues with an oversized rottweiler.
You can verify OFA records on the pedigree lines by going to Orthopedic Foundation for Animals

Good luck with your pup