What's a good price to pay

[makjamz]

Finding a COE breeder is no small task. It depends on what kind of pup - for what end use etc. the buyer is looking for.

If one was to find a stud dog one liked - say he was in Germany - the only way to get a pup from him -
a)would be to import a pup
b)buy a female bred to same stud dog
c)buy a pup from someone who whelped a litter that was bred in Germany to that dog.

There are a plethera of nice dogs, and imports in Nth America. It just depends what one is wanting out of the prospective pup. Some are better than the others in certain characteristics, type, work ethic, health clearances, and the list ad nauseum... The most important key is finding a breeder who has the discipline to not just take money for the pup - but have the patience and tolerance to mentor the puppy buyer for the life of the dog. AND also provide a guarantee without exception, for the life of the dog ad nauseum...

When one can find breeders who are vested in their dogs, not their bank accounts - one can consider shipping is a minor task/expense. When looking at the lifetime support and guarantee of a super dog from a committed caring breeder, price should not be the prime factor. Some of us committed breeders spend untold moola to get to the best dogs, the best trainers, campaign, and show. Thus it costs time and money to produce good dogs.

It is rare to see these kind of German ADRK bred pups sell anywhere under $2000. My advice to is save your money - and buy the best dog - from the best healthy, type, working, show lines - not the first cute puppy you see.

[turbodx]

Ok guys again I'm only looking for a PET . I went on breeders club and found some priced at 750 but they were all sold by the time I called the guy which was local to me in the NYC area , then I found a lady in Florida , her prices were similar , she said she has been breeding rotties for over 10 yrs now and she's also a trainer . I can't believe this process , most local breeders I found want minimum $1500 , I also went onto the Rottweiler Chronicle which lists alot of Breeders all over the US and their prices are the same . The search continues

[Shelby427]

Originally Posted by turbodx

Ok guys again I'm only looking for a PET . I went on breeders club and found some priced at 750 but they were all sold by the time I called the guy which was local to me in the NYC area , then I found a lady in Florida , her prices were similar , she said she has been breeding rotties for over 10 yrs now and she's also a trainer . I can't believe this process , most local breeders I found want minimum $1500 , I also went onto the Rottweiler Chronicle which lists alot of Breeders all over the US and their prices are the same . The search continues

Just because you're looking for a PET doesn't mean you shouldn't do the right research! You'll STILL need to find a GOOD, reputable breeder for just a PET as well. It shouldn't matter whether you want a pet or show quality dog, you should still go to a COE breeder to find the right puppy.

If you don't go the reputable breeder route, do the shelter/rescue thing.

Just wanting a pet does NOT mean you should get the dog from anywhere. Your PET still deserves the best chance at life right? You still need to make sure YOUR PET comes from healthy, good temperamented, shown, titled parents.

[brunie's mom]

Originally Posted by turbodx

Ok guys again I'm only looking for a PET . I went on breeders club and found some priced at 750 but they were all sold by the time I called the guy which was local to me in the NYC area , then I found a lady in Florida , her prices were similar , she said she has been breeding rotties for over 10 yrs now and she's also a trainer . I can't believe this process , most local breeders I found want minimum $1500 , I also went onto the Rottweiler Chronicle which lists alot of Breeders all over the US and their prices are the same . The search continues

If you want a pup instantly...then you will not find one.
Find a reputable breeder in your area (within driving distance) and get on a puppy waiting list. You may have to wait anywhere from a couple of months, to 6-9 months.
I would think a COE breeder having puppies just waiting for you is going to be hard to find...unless someone has an unexpected huge litter or someone backs out of their puppy buy.

Good things come to those that wait.

Gina

[Skip]

Originally Posted by Shelby427

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Just wanting a pet does NOT mean you should get the dog from anywhere. Your PET still deserves the best chance at life right? You still need to make sure YOUR PET comes from healthy, good temperamented, shown, titled parents.

Totally agree. A good pet deserves all the same chances and research. It's a very wise investment in your time and money.

[turbodx]

Ok so I got a call from an online site , anyway they are offering me a registered puppy with good temperament , shots etc. and Lifetime Guarantee free of defects ( fee 100% replacement if anything happens that's not my fault death, defect etc. for the life of the dog ) all I have to pay for is shipping of the new pup . All this for or around $15-1600

[Shelby427]

Originally Posted by turbodx

Ok so I got a call from an online site , anyway they are offering me a registered puppy with good temperament , shots etc. and Lifetime Guarantee free of defects ( fee 100% replacement if anything happens that's not my fault death, defect etc. for the life of the dog ) all I have to pay for is shipping of the new pup . All this for or around $15-1600

Ok, so you've heard all of the advice that's been given, yet you mention buying a puppy online?! What have the sire and dam accomplished? What are the health certs the sire and dam have? Titles?

I suggest you WAIT for the right puppy. Don't get one just so you can have one NOW! You're so concerned with prices and costs, are you ready to pay high vet bills because you weren't patient and you got the first puppy that came along? Don't get a puppy online - you have NO IDEA on the background, you don't know the seller of this puppy etc. You're risking so much doing it this way.

[Jaidann]

Call me crazy but I'm thinking buying a puppy off the internet is just not a good thing to be doing.

[brunie's mom]

Originally Posted by turbodx

Ok so I got a call from an online site , anyway they are offering me a registered puppy with good temperament , shots etc. and Lifetime Guarantee free of defects ( fee 100% replacement if anything happens that's not my fault death, defect etc. for the life of the dog ) all I have to pay for is shipping of the new pup . All this for or around $15-1600

What are the sire and dams registered names. We can pop the names into the OFA website and see what health clearances they have.

I have a feeling that there are none...or just hips.

Do these on-line breeders also take VISA or MASTERCARD??

This "life time guarantee"??? Take a good look at it...it also means you have to return the puppy/dog to the "breeder"???and then and only then will they send you a replacement? Not sure how you are going to feel when this 7 month old puppy turns up with severe HD ?? are you going to return it to get a brand new model???

Buying a puppy is not like buying a car....or a pair of shoes....you don't go shopping one day and come home with them. You have to develop a relationship with a breeder, and be worthy of taking one of their puppies.

Did the on-line breeder ask you any questions? about you, your lifestyle? where the puppy will be living? demand that you attend obedience classes? is there a spay/neuter clause in your contract?

Please listen to us and wait and keep on looking.

Gina

[brunie's mom]

Originally Posted by Shelby427

Ok, so you've heard all of the advice that's been given, yet you mention buying a puppy online?! What have the sire and dam accomplished? What are the health certs the sire and dam have? Titles?

I suggest you WAIT for the right puppy. Don't get one just so you can have one NOW! You're so concerned with prices and costs, are you ready to pay high vet bills because you weren't patient and you got the first puppy that came along? Don't get a puppy online - you have NO IDEA on the background, you don't know the seller of this puppy etc. You're risking so much doing it this way.

I don't know why we bother???
It's like bashing your head against the wall.

Gina

[makjamz]

Originally Posted by brunie's mom

I don't know why we bother???
It's like bashing your head against the wall.

Gina

Some people are not teachable or trainable.
We all make mistakes. I have been candid and annoyed people with my, on some occasions, unsolicited commentaries. But I realize it is best to move forward, be kind and diplomatic in the way of educating/sharing, and spread goodwill to all.

Hopefully this fella finds a healthy pet, which is a respectable representative of the breed in type, temperament et al.

[Ann Felske-Jackman]

Originally Posted by turbodx

Ok so I got a call from an online site

FYI, but some of these listings are scams. We know someone who purchased a bulldog puppy from one of thee sites. He lost his money AND ended up with no puppy. Eventually he ended up in touch with several other people who had all sent money to purchase the very same puppy.

[JoJo]

If all you want is a pet, why not consider rescue? There are many, many dogs waiting for a good home NOW. You will have your cake and eat it. Instant dog that comes with a vet check, spayed/neutered and have been in foster care so you will have a good idea of temperament and any quarks that may need fine tuning. Heck rescues also have puppies. And the best part of it all, rescue would be in your price range.

I'm sorry, I forgot to ask, why is it that you are so intent on a rottie?

[KatarinasMom]

Let me tell you how much our $500 rottie ACTUALLY cost us

Our first rottie girl (Baby) had been picked up as a pregnant stray and a friend of ours, who worked at the vet's office that spayed her, asked us if we would consider adopting her. She was about 2 years old at the time (the vet's "best guess" since she was a stray), and she was absolutely the most loving, well-behaved dog we had ever encountered. She truly was the dog responsible for making us rottie-lovers-for-life Unfortunately, after about six months we noticed she was having difficulty walking and going up stairs. After many tests and about $400 it was determined that she had hip dispaysia. She lived with us comfortably for many years, but in March 2006 we could no longer control the pain her hips caused her and had to have her put to sleep. This wonderful, loving, well-behaved rottie was the reason my husband wanted to answer the newspaper ad for our second girl. Baby was our first experience with rottweilers, and being naive (I like that word better than stupid) we thought all rotties would be the same

We purchased Rina at 4 months old from an ad that my husband had seen in the newspaper. Unfortunately I didn't find this site until AFTER we had purchased her and never even heard the term "Back Yard Breeder" let alone know how to recognize one. On her second day living with us she vomited a HUGE amount of spaghetti-like worms. We already had a vet appointment for that day, so we took a sample with us. Our vet checked her out and did some tests and determined that this poor girl had NEVER been wormed and not had all of the required "puppy shots". The total vet bill that day was about $200. We were angry that this "breeder" had lied to us about the wormings and shots and tried contacting her when we got home. Guess what? Her phone had been disconnected We went to the home where we purchased Rina, and the lady that answered the door was NOT the lady that sold us the dog.....it was her sister-in-law's house and she CLAIMED that they had an argument and didn't know how to contact her. We agreed it was our own stupidity for not knowing what we were looking at when she gave us all the paperwork, and it wasn't like we wanted to give Rina back, so we decided to just move on. (But I still have a few words for her if I ever see her on the street ) We had Rina spayed at around 8 months old, and when we went to pick her up we were told that they had discovered she had a severe urinary tract infection. Total vet bill for spay and treatment of UTI was $250.

So now we jump ahead to 1 year old Rina. She's finally healthy (we thought) but completely different than our first girl. There's no nice way to say it....she was BAD. I chalked it up to puppyhood, but in hindsight I think she was just an extremely active dog. Probably not the puppy we would have received from a reputable breeder who would have picked the "right" puppy for us. But we loved her all the same, and we lived and breathed training and patiently awaited the rewarding results

Rina started to "slow down" at around 19 months. We thought it was because she was maturing. One day at 20 months old we wake up to a pregnant-looking Rina. Knowing that this couldn't be possible we take her to the vet. Since this post is already obnoxiosly long, I'm going to sum it up by saying that it cost us $800 over a 2 week time span and many, many tests to be told that our precious little girl had a liver shunt that was not repairable (had it been operable, the operation would have ranged between $2500 and $3500, plus travel expenses because they don't do the operation locally). So, 3 days before Christmas 2007 my family and I sat in a room at the vet's office holding on to Rina as the vet put the needle in her paw. Total cost of that day at the vet's was $165.

The grand total of our $500 dog, in which we were only able to love for 16 short months, is $1,915. That's not even beginning to take into consideration the heartache my family had gone through.

I have been looking for a puppy also, and trust me I know what your going through and how difficult it is to find a reputable breeder. It can be very frustrating at times. I have the memory of trying to get my 17 year old daughter off the floor of the vet's office as she's holding on to Rina's deceased body to remind me the importance of being patient. The right breeder and the right puppy will come along some day, and $1500 is a small price to pay for a new member of the family

Best of luck to you in your search

[turbodx]

oK GUYS PLEASE DON'T TAKE offense , I'm just checking all my options . Also thanks Katarinasmom , now I know I'm got to get off the net and go out and meet some ppl . Sorry for your loss :( . Guess that $12-1500 isn't looking too bad now , I've also heard that If i get a mix , they have less medical problems , is that true ?