What's a good price to pay

[Skip]

Originally Posted by toobad

Well ... my friends dogs are his business but I can assure you they are what I say they are. If we had a little more notice on your show earlier this winter you could have seen 6 or 7 of them up close and personal.

As for my purchase of a pup for that kind of money I am proud to say that the parents are Karl vom Hause Neubrand / Bonny vom Oberfalzenwald 2005 Klub siegerian And yes both parents are nice dogs LOL.

A Karl pup will be everything I need to keep me happy as I think my dogs V-2 and V-3 ratings are about as good as he will ever get. The money is a small issue for me. Having two males under one roof is my big concern at this time. ALL 6 of my dogs live in the house, they are pets. Adding another male may be asking for problems so I'm trying to figure out some sort of kennel set up here at home right now. If I buy him you can be sure you will see him

Well, when you put that the dogs have all their health clearances and are v-1 rated (here on a public forum), then what is the problem with backing that up? You are the one that made your friend's business public, and I just wanted to know the name of the sire and dam so I could check OFA for all these health clearances. Also, (and it's your money), but I think it would be rediculous to spend 5 grand on a young, unproven puppy. That's just dumb. As far as Karl goes, wasn't he the dog that was banned for life for taking another BST here in USRC?

[poohbearsmom]

Originally Posted by turbodx

like where ? I think $1000 , $1500 , $2000, $3,800 , is too much ( prices quoted from breeders I've found on the net) where can I get a decent pup at a decent price

$1000-1500 is average from a reputable breeder. For $2000-3800, that pup better be dipped in gold leaf.

If Disney World charges $75 for a DAY of entertainment, why is $1000 too hard to swallow for a well bred animal that should give you 9-11years of entertainment and companionship? Not only that, but you will find that a reputable breeder is included in that price for the life (and many times beyond!) of the dog.

I agree, save your money, and research breeders.

[turbodx]

Well everyone is giving the same advice so you all can't be wrong , guess I'll just wait and research then buy from a breeder . Pazzo please PM me your breeder's contact info as I don't yet have the privilege to PM other members at this time.

[poohbearsmom]

Originally Posted by turbodx

Well everyone is giving the same advice so you all can't be wrong , guess I'll just wait and research then buy from a breeder . Pazzo please PM me your breeder's contact info as I don't yet have the privilege to PM other members at this time.

No one has PM privileges.

[jaxnvilleguy]

Not trying to be a smarty or anything, but I have noticed alot of responses to threads from Skip, Who are you Skip? Trainer? Breeder?

[baycaligirl1]

I do believe that waiting a little longer and saving up more money for a better quality rott is the way to go. You can find a good breeder who will sell a pet quality pup for $1000-1200. My pup is gorgeous and I bought him as pet quality(just look at his pics!!))..although he could've easily been sold for show. However the breeder and I came to an agreement as well as a friendship(as we spoke for almost a year before I purchased him)that I could purchase him as pet quality. He was $1150.00 (pet). My breeder is so wonderful she loves to here from me and whenever I send her more pics of Titan she always says in a joking but serious way "I still can't believe I let him go as pet quality..you lucked out LOL!!! " And shes right!!LOL Besides that he's been such a good dog. He is very easily trained and already knows(at 4 1/2 months) whos boss.....ME!!!! I actually had done what others on here suggested to you. I saved for almost a year(9-10 months) and then purchased my baby. Thats the best way to go if you want a quality rott and can't just dish out $1200 like that. Which here in OUTRAGEOUSLY EXPENSIVE California where I live it's harder cause the cost of living is 4x's more than most places, then putting money aside for 10-12 months is the way to go. You will be happy you did when you can get a pup that you truly wanted rahther then getting one just cause he was cheaper!! Good luck in your search!!!! Once you find your rott you'll have a loyal and great companion for years to come::)))))

[baycaligirl1]

I do believe that waiting a little longer and saving up more money for a better quality rott is the way to go. You can find a good breeder who will sell a pet quality pup for $1000-$1200. My pup is gorgeous and I bought him as pet quality(just look at his pics!!))..although he could've easily been sold for show. However the breeder and I came to an agreement as well as a friendship(as we spoke for almost a year before I purchased him)that I could purchase him as pet quality. He was $1150.00 (pet). My breeder is so wonderful she loves to here from me and whenever I send her more pics of Titan she always says in a joking but serious way "I still can't believe I let him go as pet quality..you lucked out LOL!!! " And shes right!!LOL Besides that he's been such a good dog. He is very easily trained and already knows(at 4 1/2 months) whos boss.....ME!!!! I actually had done what others on here suggested to you. I saved for almost a year(9-10 months) and then purchased my baby. Thats the best way to go if you want a quality rott and can't just dish out $1200 like that. Which here in OUTRAGEOUSLY EXPENSIVE California where I live it's harder cause the cost of living is 4x's more than most places, then putting money aside for 10-12 months is the way to go. You will be happy you did when you can get a pup that you truly wanted rahther then getting one just cause he was cheaper!! Good luck in your search!!!! Once you find your rott you'll have a loyal and great companion for years to come::)))))

[Skip]

Originally Posted by jaxnvilleguy

Not trying to be a smarty or anything, but I have noticed alot of responses to threads from Skip, Who are you Skip? Trainer? Breeder?

A lot of responses? Hardly. I rarely post. I don't breed dogs. I own one currently. I show him in german style conformation and train and trial him in schutzhund..He's doing very well. I live in Ohio...I'm VP of a USRC club in the columbus area...Very interested in bettering the breed, learning more. I like red more than white wines...quite a few people here know me and have met me in person. Who are you?

[GypsysMom]

Originally Posted by Skip

A lot of responses? Hardly. I rarely post. I don't breed dogs. I own one currently. I show him in german style conformation and train and trial him in schutzhund..He's doing very well. I live in Ohio...I'm VP of a USRC club in the columbus area...Very interested in bettering the breed, learning more. I like red more than white wines...quite a few people here know me and have met me in person. Who are you?

I as well like red wines better I agree that the op should save their money and get a good quality puppy from a good breeder, like the old saying goes "you get what you pay for" its true, as far as temperment with my older dog and my younger I can tell the difference just by the correct breeding.. Trust everyone here they know what they are talking about, I dont know about some breeders mine never advertises in the paper, her pups are gone before they are born..

[makjamz]

There are some good replies to convey information on this topic.

When buying a puppy it is important to research the breed as to corrrect structure, type, temperament, and health issues in the puppy the parents, and the lines they come from. A good place to start, is going to AKC, and German style shows. Look at the different dogs, talk to different breeders - get educated. There is much to consider as a good dog for someone may be an average dog for another. This variance is actually not due to just preference, but is an actual fact which experience in the breed will prove.

Most puppy buyers are not equipped with this body of knowledge when buying their pup. If they are fortunate to connect with an ethical breeder of good principles and standing - they will get an excellent puppy to match their requirements. Breeders should screen and carefully place all pups so to avoid problems down the line. It can happen. Buyers can also be devious and say - oh - I just want to show - and it turns out they just want to breed the genes out of the puppy. A decent breeder is vested in the puppy for the life of the dog, and will be there as a resource for the puppy owner.

Price should not be a prime factor - the focus should be to get the best puppy for your situation. First of all they are a companion, then a show, obedience, agility, work, service, therapy, SchH, or whatever dog. My prices vary depending on the breeding and the puppy in question. It is best to save, and if that is out of the question, rescue is an option, in some cases. Be sure you see all the health clearances on the parents and in their lines - do not believe hearsay. It will save the potential expensive medical costs down the line. This can also happen for dogs with clearances - but you can reduce the risk factor by good research before you commit to any one breeder - or pup.

Sadly many of the puppy buyers who contact me would rather get a puppy now - than wait for a super puppy that has not been bred at the time of their query. The general population is starving for good education - and it is true for all breeds of dogs.

Mary-Ann Kerrigan

[jaxnvilleguy]

I am a person that is here to learn new things from people who know what they are doing so that I can do the right thing.

[cerulean]

We spent a month's take-home wages for our pup, even though we fall into the "lowest tax bracket" and live pretty frugally.
We feel that it is well-worth every penny we saved and spent for her, her temperament is fabulous and her chances of joint problems are very low.

Lots of people spend that kind of money on a couch.... we can live with a funky Goodwill couch but our pup is our family.

[Skip]

Originally Posted by jaxnvilleguy

I am a person that is here to learn new things from people who know what they are doing so that I can do the right thing.

Gee, sounds very secretive, and kind of obvious. Don't bother asking me any questions anymore if you don't wish to share the same way.

[TrinaJ]

Originally Posted by SABELLESMOM

When researching for a great breeder, I took MANY things into consideration. I went to shows, I spoke with breeders, handlers and judges. Two of the handlers had shown her dogs. A number of judges had judged them. I checked for every health cert imaginable. I spoke with the breeder MANY times on the phone, thru e-mail, etc. And she checked ME!

I also checked online! Which, is different than buying from an ad...online. Good grief! If you do all the rest, why not? I found beautiful (US/CAN) dogs bred to standard, with titles fore and aft. I found beautiful WELL titled (GERMAN) imports. I found what I was looking for and have ABSOLUTELY NO regrets!

I would recommend MY breeder to anyone. I have two dogs from her, and would happily return for more in the future. She puts out a great product: BRAINS and BEAUTY, with an alert, intense, and sensible TEMPERAMENT.

Check on line? You betcha! Doing your homework CAN include an online check.

I agree that you can find poor breeders online as well. I found ones who bred "oversized" dogs. I found the notorious "K" breeder...and others like them. There are clues to weed out poor breeders. Employ the brain. Talk with the folks here about what to look for in a breeder. Search the archives. I believe there's a sticky somewhere by Judy W. that would help.

PS: $1000 is not too much to spend for quality. Maybe you could make less expensive travel arrangements. My breeder sent one pup with another buyer so I only had to make 1/2 the trip by car. I'd had back surgery. My other girl we drove ourselves.

I found my breeder online also....via her website. She's a COE breeder who is a Member of the RCV and is very highly thought of.

Are they any upcoming shows in your area? Perhaps you could go to a show and meet with some of the breeders there?

I agree $1000 is not a lot to pay for, esp if you go on a waiting list and put aside a little money each pay day. As SablesMom said, you could always meet the breeder half way to cut down costs. Hell some breeders even deliver so that they can check out the pups living arrangements. It never hurts to ask.

[TrinaJ]

There are some all breeds conformation shows in NJ this month according to the AKC's website.... you may find some people there that you can talk to....


Friday March 21 2008 & Saturday March 22 2008
New Brunswick Kennel Club, Inc.
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New Jersey Convention and ExpositionCntr
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Twin Brooks Kennel Club, Inc.
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Union County Kennel Club, Inc.
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Sand and Sea Kennel Club
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