New to dogs....

[FranMan]

I leave the dog on the cable till I get a fence up! There is a big kennel in the garage where he sleeps at night. So all of you are saying it is better for the dog stay in a kennel while I am at work instead of outside on a chain? I am also building a dog house which should be done shortly after the fence.

[Cherry Heart]

Originally Posted by FranMan

I also don't like "I think" I would like to hear "I know" rotties can jump over 4' fences but not 5'.

I KNOW some rotties can jump a SIX foot fence. Some dogs are more determined then others. I KNOW mine can jump a 4ft.

Originally Posted by FranMan

The reason I took the dog besides it’s value was to protect my property and family.

What value? Are you planning on showing, breeding, or the value of not having to buy a security system? I mean no offence but I wonder about the "value" of a dog. The value of my dog is sentimental because I love her.

Not all rotties are protective, they are working breed that come from hearding, they also guarded but not so much the people as their terriory and the animals/heard within that area. You may find a dog who doesn't want a person on their property, but once the intruder is inside the house (unless it is an inside dog) the dog couldn't care less.

[FranMan]

how much does rotty pups sell for?

[groupieindenial]

Originally Posted by FranMan

how much does rotty pups sell for?

You said its AKC registered. Do the dog a favour, and call the breeder up tell him you have one of his pups.

[Bruce Lanthier]

Originally Posted by FranMan

how much does rotty pups sell for?

One from a BYB like yours is usually around $200 but, also like yours, you can usually get BYB pups for free. either from a rescue, a shelter, or a BYB that is tired of paying for food and cleaning up crap.

also, a BYB pup like yours is not likely to protect anything unless he develops resource guarding issues.

You have so many misconceptions about Rottweilers that your best bet is to try and learn a whole bunch more before you lay any unrealistic expectations on your puppy.

[FranMan]

Originally Posted by groupieindenial

You said its AKC registered. Do the dog a favour, and call the breeder up tell him you have one of his pups.

Then what should I do?

[Bruce Lanthier]

Originally Posted by groupieindenial

You said its AKC registered. Do the dog a favour, and call the breeder up tell him you have one of his pups.

And if the breeder does not want it back, which is likely, contact a reputable Rottweiler rescue group and see if they have room for it.

[StephanieandToby]

IMO...If you have a 4-foot fence coupled with Invisible Fencing, you should be fine. Make sure your invisible fencing is several feet in from the perimeter of the 4-foot fence. That way your dogs can't reach the outside fence.

[fostermom]

No one can give you absolutes on what height fence will contain your dog. Certainly a five foot fence would probably be fine...maybe even a four but many dogs, regardless of breed, can jump a four foot fence and a few can jump a six!! Like I said, there are no absolute answers...but if a five foot fence is an option, that would probably be fine. The ONLY dog that jumped my four foot was a smallish senior gsd/boxer who wanted to be with me when she saw me outside the fence. Again, I think dogs who are left alone for long periods in a yard, regardless of fence height, tend to try to escape.
As to protection, please do a search here on protection/guarding. Few dogs will actually protect, but having a rotti is by itself a deterent. My rotti's (I have three) are immensely social; anyone could walk into my house and be greeted with kisses at any time. But the neighborhood kids comment that I have the house with the "mean rotti's"...which is probably all the crime deterent I need.

[FranMan]

Originally Posted by Bruce Lanthier

One from a BYB like yours is usually around $200 but, also like yours, you can usually get BYB pups for free. either from a rescue, a shelter, or a BYB that is tired of paying for food and cleaning up crap.

also, a BYB pup like yours is not likely to protect anything unless he develops resource guarding issues.

You have so many misconceptions about Rottweilers that your best bet is to try and learn a whole bunch more before you lay any unrealistic expectations on your puppy.

I am learning alot. From what you guys are saying is a rottweiler doesn't have any money value nor is good for nothing other than chasing it around to wipe it's butt everytime it poops.

[FranMan]

Originally Posted by fostermom

No one can give you absolutes on what height fence will contain your dog. Certainly a five foot fence would probably be fine...maybe even a four but many dogs, regardless of breed, can jump a four foot fence and a few can jump a six!! Like I said, there are no absolute answers...but if a five foot fence is an option, that would probably be fine. The ONLY dog that jumped my four foot was a smallish senior gsd/boxer who wanted to be with me when she saw me outside the fence. Again, I think dogs who are left alone for long periods in a yard, regardless of fence height, tend to try to escape.
As to protection, please do a search here on protection/guarding. Few dogs will actually protect, but having a rotti is by itself a deterent. My rotti's (I have three) are immensely social; anyone could walk into my house and be greeted with kisses at any time. But the neighborhood kids comment that I have the house with the "mean rotti's"...which is probably all the crime deterent I need.

thanks for your input. It wouldn't matter too much if the dog didn't "protect" as buddy's DP did when on the chain but the I think fear factor would be enough.

[Bruce Lanthier]

Originally Posted by FranMan

I am learning alot. From what you guys are saying is a rottweiler doesn't have any money value nor is good for nothing other than chasing it around to wipe it's butt everytime it poops.

For someone that has a bit of a clue they are worth quite a bit. For the clueless they don't have any money value and are good for nothing except chasing around and butt wiping. Now, you either have to get a clue or you can stay clueless. If you decide to stay clueless please give the pup back to the breeder or, more than likely, a reputable Rottweiler rescue. The rescue will make sure the pup goes to someone with a clue.

[tcote]

Sorry, {FranMan} but after reading your posts --IMO you neither WANT or NEED a rottie for the right reasons!

[AngelBunny]

Originally Posted by FranMan

I am learning alot. From what you guys are saying is a rottweiler doesn't have any money value nor is good for nothing other than chasing it around to wipe it's butt everytime it poops.

With your attitude, I really do not think you're the best owner for the dog. I'm not saying this to be unkind or mean or to put you down. If your comment really is why you got Sabot in the first place--because you thought he was valuable, either monetarily or to protect your family and your property--you will likely be disappointed.

Rotties bred by BYBs are a dime a dozen and are worth only what the naive, unsophisticated wanna be Rottie owner is willing to pay for the puppy. You may find you can't even give the puppy away.

I know this for a fact--I've been involved in rescue for years and have heard all sorts of reasons why dogs get themselves into rescue. We've had more than one Rottie "breeder" contact us about taking his or her dogs because the "breeder" can't sell them and is tired of losing money.

As far as Sabot offering protection to your family and your property, if safety and security are concerns of yours, you'd be far better off installing an alarm system than depending on Sabot.

In the happy event Sabot's breeder isn't a BYB, the puppy's breeder will be glad to take the puppy back. If the "breeder" won't return your call if you need to leave a message or has no interest in helping you, contact Rottie rescue local to you.

[FranMan]

You guys should edit your freedom of speech statement because this site is far from it. You re-title it to “We are a bunch of dog freaks that live to follow our animals around as if they are gods. If you don’t say you want a rotty as a teddy bear we will delete your thread” I guess this is why ?????????????????????? was started along with many other forums that cover the same interest. Tailoring what people say should be illegal. Best wishes to this site and the “I am pregnant and my rotty pup is biting me” threads.