Dispell The Myths!

[TrishB]

Okay everyone,

Let's make a thread about all of the excuses we've heard over the years of BYB's and simply, bad breeders. So that if someone were to come here and see a line that they recognized from their potential puppy seller - that it would send off warning bells for them.

Please post the line, and then why they say it. I'll start.

"Oh, we only breed for pets. So that's why we don't show / work / compete our dogs."

This is NOT why. Showing, working, competing in ANY arena takes time, determination, knowledge, skill and money. They don't do any of these things because they can't be bothered. The fact of the matter is, the temperament, ability and stability of the parents of your puppy are going to impact the temperament, ability, stability of your puppy. Unless they've been evaluated on some formal field - by experts in those fields - then how will you ever know?

We all think that our dogs are the best dogs. Which is why we cannot evaluate our own dogs. That is why taking them out, having them reviewed by many different sources and accepting those evaluations from various venues is so important to any breeding animal.

Next? :)

[MonteRiehl]

MYTH:He's a "rare" rottweiler because he has a long curley coat. That makes him more valuable.

Fact: There is NO "valuble rare long coated rottweiler " It's an out of standard dog. This is a sales Gimmick from a person who knows nothing about breeding to the rottweiler standard, and is also trying to take more money from you.

[GypsysMom]

"big beautiful GERMANpups"

German?? But both Parents and ancestors were born in America.They beleive if they put that in they will sell the pups faster, so thats more $$ in their pocket Some people that are not familar don't know

[jakesfostermom]

MYTH: "RED" Rottweilers are very rare and VERY expensive to purchase....

FACT: They may be rare, but their coat coloration is incorrect and a result of an undesirable gene. They do not meet breed standard and should not be represented as worth "more" simply due to their coloring.

[GypsysMom]

" Oh you cant pet the parents they get shy around people" Or I Dont ALLow people to pet my dogs"

FACT They are not socialized very well with others therefore their temperment isnt the best and you should find some parents you can see and pet

[rottcrazed]

WOW, good idea Trish!

How about this one:

'Oh, it was an accident that our 9 month old puppy was bred, she was out and we didn't know she was in season .....'

Yeah .... RIGHT!

Kristi

[SonnyRott]

O.k....I'll just post the ad my BYB has in the paper right now:

Males, AKC/USRC Int'l Ch./SCHIII lines, (conformation/working), OFA - 6 Generations Good Hips/Elbows Normal, Bred for temperament and physical soundness. To Qualified homes, Serious inquiries only. Torrington, CT.

Sounds pretty good, doesn't it? Not only does she not show or work her dogs, but she is not involved in any club because she cannot be bothered. Fact is, she does not want to be held accountable for her actions and I doubt anyone would allow her to join after all the damage she's done to the breed. She has produced so many ill dogs it would make your head spin, not to mention dogs that had to be put down for bad temperament.

She has also been arrested for forgery and uses false OFA's. She is not a registered kennel in her town even though she says she's been breeding (under a kennel name) for over 20 years. She has been suspended from AKC and uses 4 aliases interchangeably. From the above ad, it sounds like she is still using the same piece of junk stud dog that she used to sire my poor mess.

I see she no longer advertises 10 or 8 generations of "Good Hips"! Gee, my dog has HD and that was only 2 generations ago. Very predictably, she is still duping people. I would go so far as to say she has NEVER bred 1 generation that did not have some kind of physical or emotional problem. She should be in jail!!!!!!!

BUYER BEWARE!!!!!!!!

[hcelsa]

How about this lovely ad in the Little Nickel...

RARE GERMAN ROTTWEILER/Tibetan Mastiff mix puppies. Great family guard. Intelligent, loyal and beautiful. Asking $300 each. Call 360-xxx-0496

They're rare all right...rarely of good health and or temperament I'd bet.

[denverday]

Family raised & have very good temperament

american pitbull terrier puppies
(3) females, buckskin, performance bred, champion cowboy bloodline

rottweilers
ready for Fathers Day, German lines, gorgeous, big and blocky, accepting deposits

ROTTWEILERS
(3) adult females, AKC, big, beautiful, breedable w/or without papers, $600

rottweiler puppies
8wks, papers, vet checked, vaccinated, breeding pair, $1200 or $650 each

[GypsysMom]

Parents temperments are wonderful.Loving,
playful and protective. Both have Blockly heads,
stocky and muscularly built.We are accepting
$200 deposits at this time. Exceptional males and
females are $500 w/ spay -neuter or $650 for
breeding


Another ad I saw said " The sire is a beautiful 14 month old with a good temperment" 14 MOnths????????????????????

[Cherry Heart]

"We haven't gotten the official papers yet but the Vet/OFA gave us the all clear"

If you are there to PICK UP a puppy, then they bred to soon. All papers should be IN the breeders hand BEFORE they breed the dogs! This is the line I fell for. Amazingly, Arwen is 15 months now (so that would be over a year and a half since the original breeding date) and she still hasen't "gotten the papers" in the mail yet. DUH because she didn't send in OFFICIAL X-rays to get OFFICIAL reg numbers!

[Lola B Marie]

Myth ;Those amber eyes are very rare. We chose her for our store because she had those exotic eyes.
Fact: Rottweilers should have brown eyes as breed standard not yellow.

[SABELLESMOM]

How about: Bred for superior size? Custom importing of puppies and adults? Shipping worldwide?

Then there's the ever popular: Rottie's as they were during the Roman wars? Bred for size?

(Eh? Call me stupid but, wouln't that be before they were Rottweilers? They would still have been Roman Mastiffs?)

Also seem to remember: German blockheads!

[hcelsa]

There are some websites out there that read like used car sales pitches...scary...it's obvious that the marketing works though because they keep pumping out puppies (and often placing them inappropriately)!

Some of those "sales pitches"...
"insane type", "extreme bone", "huge heads" (or some other body part), "wide feet" (this one really confused me...why would I want a Rottweiler with wide feet?)...etc, etc .

[GypsysMom]

and the "HUGE ROTTWEILERS" they shouldnt be HUGE or what about other animals like mixed breeds

Golden/rotts Tails clipped $300 No papers (well DUH) Excellent temperments! Well most pups I have seen are "excellent" they are playful pups for the moment

Or the Pitt bull/Rottweiler pups Will go quick great guard dogs