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Old 02-26-2006, 05:17 AM
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Canned fish? food?

Our breeder told us that its ok to give our dog canned fish..that its good for them and that they like it.
My dog loves it..and gets it fairly often..is this ok? He eats his regular dog food..but is a can of fish ok..?? Its canned sardine fish..and its 110 grams per can..
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Old 02-26-2006, 06:54 AM
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Re: Canned fish? food?

Yes...canned sardines, mackeral and salmon are all good additions to your dog's diet.
Here's an article for your information...

http://b-naturals.com/Jan2005.php
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Old 02-26-2006, 09:37 PM
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Re: Canned fish? food?

hey thanks alot! I was a little worried because my dad would give him a can every second day or so..which to me is fairly frequent but its only 110grams..he eats it within a few bites.. He also loves veggies..like carrots for an example..and he likes apples too..altho this isnt something he gets daily.
An occasional raw egg as well..
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Old 02-26-2006, 10:41 PM
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Re: Canned fish? food?

All of those foods are pretty good for your dog to be eating...just avoid foods like chocolate, onions, etc. I'm sure there is a list around here, if you search for it.

Make sure you adjust your dog's kibble so that he doesn't put on too much weight, and he should be happy and healthy

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Old 02-26-2006, 11:37 PM
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Re: Canned fish? food?

Hes not over weight which is good..he exercises two times day..sometimes 3 (walks/runs etc).
Thanks for your help :)
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Old 02-27-2006, 08:52 PM
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Re: Canned fish? food?

Avoid chocolate, grapes, raisins, artificial sweeteners (especially xylitol), coffee & grounds/tea (caffeine) for SURE.

Tomatoes and potatoes if your dog is arthritic, garlic (in large amounts), onions, apple cores/seeds, fruit pits, avocado, macadamia nuts, many types of mushrooms, um... that's all I can think of at the moment.

If you want to be really cautious, also avoid soy, wheat, corn, and dairy.

Eggs can deplete biotin, give them rarely.
Veggies have a lot of tough cellulose dogs can't break down (in the digestive tract), so puree them. A carrot is fine for a chew toy, but nutritionally it won't do anything for the dog. Great for teething!
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Old 02-27-2006, 11:00 PM
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Re: Canned fish? food?

I have heard all that diver03 listed as bad for dogs but I thought garlic helps prevent fleas or something. I have read that a clove of garlic a day is good for Rotties. Also avocado is a new one on the don't list for me. why? Also I have heard that it is RAW onions not cooked onions that is bad. This is all hearsay. Can anyone clarify??

Canned fish, not including albacore tuna, and king mackerel is very good (mercury). Love canned sardines, mackerel and salmon myself. Very good for the joints. Omega fatty acids. Supposed to help with cancer and cancer prevention also, boosts immune system.
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Old 02-28-2006, 10:51 AM
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Re: Canned fish? food?

Garlic in large amounts - i.e. a clove is probably fine, but if you drop a bottle on the floor and the dog scarfs it up, might be toxic in that amount. Still -who knows?

Good site: http://www.dog-first-aid-101.com/toxic-foods.html
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Avocados
All parts of the avocado tree, including the leaves, bark, seeds and fruit, are toxic to dogs. Persin, a fatty acid derivative, is the toxin in this plant. Signs include breathing difficulties, an extended or enlarged abdomen, and fluid accumulation in the abdomen, the chest, and sac around the heart.

At this time, the amount of avocado fruit or other plant parts needed to toxify your dog is unknown, so do not feed any of this toxic food to your pet. Some specialized pet food manufacturers are putting avocado in their products. Avoid those products until research proves that avocado fruit are safe for dogs.
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Onions and garlic contain thiosulphate, the chemical that makes them toxic foods for dogs. If you feed onions or garlic to him regularly, his red blood cells may weaken and literally fall apart. The thiosulphate can reach toxic, even deadly levels, if he eats too much of either food. Without treatment, severe anemias and death can result from overeating these toxic foods.

Humans have an enzyme that allows us to digest onions and garlic (although some people do have digestive problems with them). All dogs (and cats) lack that enzyme. This can result in vomiting, diarrhea, gas or gastrointestinal pain and distress. These symptoms might not appear for a few days, which makes it much harder to pinpoint the poison.

To avoid this problem, be sure to keep these toxic foods away from your dog. Keep them well up from floor level. If he likes to open cupboards with his snout, use child protection latches on the inside of the cupboard doors to keep him out.
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Old 02-28-2006, 10:55 AM
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Re: Canned fish? food?

I used about a tsp. of garlic on my collie's food 15 years ago when we lived in Germany. The ticks over there were awful and everywhere, but the garlic kept them away.

Chase got a can of mackeral once a week instead of chicken when she was eating raw. I think it was her favorite meal of the week!
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Old 02-28-2006, 09:20 PM
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Re: Canned fish? food?

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Avoid chocolate, grapes, raisins, artificial sweeteners (especially xylitol), coffee & grounds/tea (caffeine) for SURE.

Tomatoes and potatoes if your dog is arthritic, garlic (in large amounts), onions, apple cores/seeds, fruit pits, avocado, macadamia nuts, many types of mushrooms, um... that's all I can think of at the moment.

If you want to be really cautious, also avoid soy, wheat, corn, and dairy.

Eggs can deplete biotin, give them rarely.

diver03- Good post! I just wanted to clarify your comment about eggs. I have been feeding a whole, raw, free-range egg daily for 6 yrs without a problem.
Biotin is in the egg yolk, avidin is in the white. Biotin 'depletion' or deficiency would occur if egg whites alone were being consumed. According to the American Egg Board, "..a human would have to eat 24 raw egg whites
a day for biotin to be inihibited by avidin." I think it is safe to say that
the whole egg, fed raw or cooked, is fine. (Cooking will inactivate avidin
for those that worry)
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Old 03-02-2006, 03:29 PM
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Re: Canned fish? food?

When my puppy is going really lose (the runs) I feed him boiled chicken and brown rice with very little garlic, some shreded carrots and little rosemary. I use boneless and skinless thighs cause of the darker meat ( must taste better) then I mix it with some of his Nutro food. He loves it . Sometimes I feed a 1/2 boiled egg with kibble or 1/2 teaspoon of cod liver oil with kibble and some wet. I do watch how much wet i give.
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Old 03-03-2006, 03:20 PM
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Re: Canned fish? food?

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diver03- Good post! I just wanted to clarify your comment about eggs. I have been feeding a whole, raw, free-range egg daily for 6 yrs without a problem.
Biotin is in the egg yolk, avidin is in the white. Biotin 'depletion' or deficiency would occur if egg whites alone were being consumed. According to the American Egg Board, "..a human would have to eat 24 raw egg whites
a day for biotin to be inihibited by avidin." I think it is safe to say that
the whole egg, fed raw or cooked, is fine. (Cooking will inactivate avidin
for those that worry)
Best wishes-
kathy
Good point Kathy! Thanks! Good to know because eggs are such a good source of protein.
Yeah, I know people who feed all of these things. I guess it's what you feel safe with.:)
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Old 03-03-2006, 04:26 PM
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Re: Canned fish? food?

diver03- Hey fellow Ohioan! You are welcome! My only point of posting the info was for those that are new to adding foods to the kibble, or feeding homemade. It could be the tiniest bit of misinformation that results in a panic. The mentality then becomes: "Oh know, I gave my dog an egg 3 days in a row and now my dog will be biotin deficient!"
I think you get my point albeit overstated!
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Old 03-03-2006, 11:47 PM
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Re: Canned fish? food?

So wait I am still kinda lost here, It is safer to feed the whole egg then just the white or yoke ?? One egg a week won't do anything ? Thanks
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Old 03-05-2006, 01:00 PM
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Re: Canned fish? food?

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It could be the tiniest bit of misinformation that results in a panic. The mentality then becomes: "Oh know, I gave my dog an egg 3 days in a row and now my dog will be biotin deficient!"
Yes, and not only that, most of this is just for informative purposes, you and your vet need to make your own decisions for your dog. For instance I don't feed my dogs corn, but other people think it's fine.
And everything is toxic if the amount is large enough.
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