Muzzles!

[rottiluver]

I'm getting Diesel a muzzle which I'm considering a nylon, but reading about them some say they can bite while wearing one? The one I am looking at the salesman says they're mainly used to prevent barking, which is the main reason why i want it, but if it doesn't allow them to bite, even better. Anyone know what the pros and cons are of this type of muzzle?

[Judi W]

If you get the kind that holds the mouth closed to the point that the dog cannot bark, it also will not be able to pant which is very dangerous.

Muzzles are not the best choice to solve a barking problem. Is your concern barking or biting or both? If it primary for biting, get a basket muzzle which allows drinking and panting.

[rottiluver]

No, I'd never use a closed muzzle...The guy selling them says he can paint and drink while wearing it, but its used for barking and he 'says' they cannot bite either. Which I'm not sure about.

My concern is Diesel is fearful, and barks at ppl while we're out in public, even though I never leave him unattended, I still want something for protection.

[Judi W]

A quick review and I see that the dog is indeed aggressive and a basket muzzle was recommended more than 8 months ago. I don't know why you wouldn't just get the kind recommended.

[lblax]

Originally Posted by rottiluver

My concern is Diesel is fearful, and barks at ppl while we're out in public, even though I never leave him unattended, I still want something for protection.

i agree with judi on the basket muzzle but it is of my opinion a dog that is so fearful that the owner doesnt feel they can handle the dog out in public and keep the public safe ,simply shouldnt be out in public. a dog that fearful eventually will become a threat everywhere.

[GenHannibal]

Since the basket muzzle would most likely be used for outdoors while you are among people, you most likely not need it when he eats. I believe he would be able to drink water with the basket type muzzle. I'm not certain, but what I've seen they are able to drink water. It would allow free movement of his mouth and pant if needed while preventing him from biting. Barking at people is something that would be corrected through obedience and other socialization methods.

[RottiMomCT]

You cannot stop/control bakring with a muzzle of any kind. What 'salesman' otld you that?? Someone from the pet supply store?? Puhleeze...

TRAINING will help control/correct barking along with many other undesirable urges a dog may have.

If you don't feel your dog is safe in public, don't bring him there.

[Sargeant_C]

I have used the basket muzzle while working with Sarge. I feel those are more humane then the nylon ones. And if your dog is anything like mine those nylon ones will be ripped off.
Of course do not leave it on for a long time. I just use it when I am working on getting him to not be so nervous around ppl. Then I am more relaxed and he is more relaxed.

[lblax]

Originally Posted by RottiMomCT

You cannot stop/control bakring with a muzzle of any kind. What 'salesman' otld you that?? Someone from the pet supply store?? Puhleeze...

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there are many brands of muzzles that absoutly will stop a dog from biting or barking, but they are intended for use for a very short period of time under constant supervision(like a quick trip to the vet or groomers) and should never be used while the dog is doing anything other than sitting in a controlled situation

[RottiMomCT]

Originally Posted by lblax

there are many brands of muzzles that absoutly will stop a dog from biting or barking, but they are intended for use for a very short period of time under constant supervision(like a quick trip to the vet or groomers) and should never be used while the dog is doing anything other than sitting in a controlled situation

I stand corrected. That said, I don't think a controlled situatio is what the muzzle is for with the OP...I think, and again, correct me if I am wrong, they want a muzzle to stop barking when out for a walk or whatever and the dog fires off and starts barking. I think training and consistency will help with the barking issue much more than a muzzle would.

[lblax]

Originally Posted by RottiMomCT

I think training and consistency will help with the barking issue much more than a muzzle would.

i agree but with this dog in reviewing some past threads he probably shouldnt even be out in public. but if they insist a basket muzzle is the only way to go.

[rottiluver]

Originally Posted by lblax

there are many brands of muzzles that absoutly will stop a dog from biting or barking, but they are intended for use for a very short period of time under constant supervision(like a quick trip to the vet or groomers) and should never be used while the dog is doing anything other than sitting in a controlled situation

Thank you...I only intend to muzzle my dog when we go to the vet or sitting in public. When in a down position he gets fearful when a stranger walks up to him, so he barks. He never bit anyone or tried for that matter. We walk in public parks all the time and there's no problem, for some reason it's when he's in a down position he gets nervous having someone stand over him which he has never met before. I just wanted to see what thoughts or experience you all had with the nylon before saying anything about purchasing it.

[lblax]

i still wouldnt use a no bark in your situation you'll have to keep putting it on and off go with a basket muzzle and leave it on the whole time he is in public.if you cant work this problem with your dog then i would suggest getting from help with him..