Question about another dog breed!!

[RottieMom51503]

Jagger was adopted about two weeks ago by a Family who had previous experience with Rott's. The mother is a stay at home Mom and sells Mary Kay. The father works for the police department and is a part- time dog trainer for a local kennel. They have a teenage son and they bought Jagger for him. Anyways they called last night and wanted to know if I thought Jagger would get along with a coon hound. They have a 7 year old female Rott. and Jagger all ready but I guess the husband wants a hunting dog. I told them I would find out, What do you guys think?

[Carina43]

Hmmm, well the father's dog-savvy abilities are a bit questionable for a trainer!
It depends.
Being as it's only been two weeks, I imagine they want to wait quite some time before getting another dog...Jagger has to settle in, get trained, be acclimated to the family "pack" dynamics, etc etc. At this point they don't really have a handle on his personality - how old is he & how has he been so far with other dogs?

I think most hunting type dogs tend to be pretty mellow with other dogs, at least if they're the sort bred to hunt in packs.

[RottieMom51503]

Thanks Carina. I'm sorry I should of said that they are wanting to put their name on a list for a breeder. I guess the breeder he wants a puppy from said they would put him on list but his litter will not be ready for new homes till next summer. Jagger is only 13 weeks old. There should be about a year and a half between the dogs in age. They aren't sure if the two breeds would mix well or not though. I didn't know what to tell them because I have never even heard of a coon hound.

[Carina43]

Oh... I was thinking maybe Jagger was an adult rescue & they were in a hurry to get a Coonhound pup! That would be a bad idea. :)

I'd say if Jagger is well socialised & trained as he's growing, and he's neutered, it'll probably be fine - but it depends on the individual dogs more than the breed. And they will be bringing a pup into the home when Jagger is an adolescent, though if he's neutered early that will make a big difference. Anecdotal so take it as such - my first two male Rottweilers were neutered at 6 months old & both were completely OK with all other dogs. My current two males were neutered later & neither is particularly great with other males.

My last Rottweiler would have accepted just about any male dog into the house, at any age. He was totally mellow & friendly. Cooper (who was neutered later) turned into a horrible, hormone crazed lunging idiot about other males when he was about 10 months old - despite ongoing ob classes & extensive socialising b/c he almost always came to work with me. It took a ton of work to get him acting sensibly around other males, and I'll probably always have to limit his interaction with male dogs. He's polite, but doesn't have patience with any sort of challenge. FWIW, he doesn't have much patience with puppies either

Someone in an ob class I went to had two black & tan Coonhounds. I remember her saying they were distressed about how vocal these dogs were! I guess they howl a lot...but I'm no expert in hunting dogs.

[RottieMom51503]

Thanks for the informative information. I will pass it on to them. :p

[Carina43]

Originally Posted by RottieMom51503

Thanks for the informative information. I will pass it on to them. :p

Wait till some of the REAL experts respond. ;) :D

[mmgy]

Originally Posted by RottieMom51503

I have never even heard of a coon hound.

You and I certainly weren't raised in the same state! :D

My recently departed Homer was a Plott hound, which is used for hunting coon, bear, and boar. We didn't, he couldn't, he was gunshy. What kind is he looking at? I can think of at least a half dozen breeds that are coonhunters.

Will he be hunting it? Or will it come from hunting stock? The drive in these dogs is incredible, and if it's not directed they can be problem children. If he's getting one solely as a companion, I'd suggest a female, to go along with the rottie. A male without a working purpose can get quite high-minded about other boy dogs.

[RottieMom51503]

He wants to hunt with it. He also wants a boy. I am not sure what kind of coon hound.

I'm stupid when it comes to dog breeds unless it's a kind you see everyday like Rotts, GSD or Goldens. HEHE

[PuppyLove]

I used to have a Coonhound (blue tick/treeing walker X). BTW....not very common in Orange County, California. We lived in a semi-rural area, so the neighbors weren't right on top of us. BUT...they all knew who we were.

Why? One of the traits Coonhounds were bred for was to be heard miles away by their owners, while they were tracking and treeing their game. So, compounded by the echo from the canyon area we lived in, all of my neighbors knew when Rally had spied someone walking on the road below the house, or someone's dog had gotten loose, or a coyote/bobcat was running our property line, or a blue heron was hunting gophers on the hillside, or if we were down at the barn with the horses and he was in his yard, or....do you get the picture? Sweetheart of a dog, biggest goof ever, but had a hound dog voice. They don't bark, they bay. It's a beautiful sound, but not at 5 am, when you have just let them out to pee and you know your neighbors are all still sleeping. :D Think of a beagle or a basset, then multiply that by 10.

And they can get tunnel vision if they pick up a scent. It's all about the nose!
They are great dogs. Just like with everything, you just need to know what you're getting into first. If you have understanding neighbors, or your dog just doesn't respond to stimuli with his vocal cords, then you're set!

[MARYDVM]

I owned a black and tan coonhound during college ($10.00 from the classified ads). Very easy going dog, big voice, typical hound single-mindedness. You can train all you want, but it's still a coin toss if you call a hound when it is off leash.

I have had many clients with hunting hounds. They ran coon, bear, and eastern coyote. Not one of them was a house dog. They lived chained to a doghouse unless they were hunting. You pretty much need more than one hound for hunting, also a collar that can be tracked electronically for when they head out in a direction you can't follow, and are missing for several days. Has this guy actually hunted with hounds before? It doesn't sound like he really knows what's involved.

[RottieMom51503]

I talked to them tonite and he is getting a bluetick hound. He said he has hunted in a group for years but never owned one of the dogs. I don't know anythimg about hunting either unless hunting for the remote counts. HEHE

[MARYDVM]

But are the dogs he's hunted over house dogs? The life of a pet doesn't usually produce the mindset and conditioning of a good trailhound.

[mmgy]

Originally Posted by MARYDVM

But are the dogs he's hunted over house dogs? The life of a pet doesn't usually produce the mindset and conditioning of a good trailhound.

Exactly. If Homer hadn't been gunshy, he never would have even resembled a house dog. As it was, he was probably the hardest-to-live-with-and-train dog I will ever own.

I do miss him.

[RottieMom51503]

I know one guy he hunts with has a blood hound and a couple begals that are only hunting dogs, they stay outside. I'm not sure about this guy. Yesterday they came over so I could show them where to buy Canidae. Anyways, I thought that I read somewhere that Rottweilers aren't German or American and that the biggest diffrence was that Germans had a tail. He asked me last night if Daphne was German and I told him that, then he looked at me like I was full of it and said he has never heard of that. He told me Germans have block heads and I said that that was just the bloodline. who is right or are we both wrong?

[Carina43]

Originally Posted by RottieMom51503

Anyways, I thought that I read somewhere that Rottweilers aren't German or American and that the biggest diffrence was that Germans had a tail. He asked me last night if Daphne was German and I told him that, then he looked at me like I was full of it and said he has never heard of that. He told me Germans have block heads and I said that that was just the bloodline. who is right or are we both wrong?

He's 100% wrong. They typically don't dock tails in Germany & many other parts of Europe.

http://rottweiler.net/forums/showthr...erman+american

:)