Red!!!.. ROttweilers

[Rott'n'Pit]

I remember a long time ago red rotties started being bred. Now all of a sudden i read somethign about them again. I am confused as to how imbred those dogs must be to get that out there... anyone know anything about them?

[babybluetx23]

http://www.amrottclub.org/redrotts.htm

WHAT EXACTLY IS A "RED ROTTWEILER"?

A "Red Rottweiler" carries a genetic fault which inhibits the display of the characteristic black base coat color. It is a recessive gene, which when expressed, gives the appearance of a light brown or auburn base coat color with light auburn markings.

Frequently, "Red Rottweilers" also exhibit lighter colored eyes which may possibly be linked to a higher incidence of eye problems. In addition, some sources claim to have found "Red Rottweilers" to also carry a higher incidence of cardiac problems.

The American Kennel Club (AKC) is registering Rottweilers displaying this trait, which has never been confirmed as pure bred. The current breed standard distinctly says: "Color: Always black with rust to mahogany markings; and disqualifications: any base color other than black..."

The American Rottweiler Club will uphold the Rottweiler as a black dog with clearly defined markings. We cannot allow this genetic fault to corrupt the purity of our breed.

The American Rottweiler Club must prevent the breeders of "Red Rottweilers" from further contaminating our gene pool. Breeders of "Red Rottweilers" often times classify these genetic variants as harmless, and frequently advertise them as "rare". Do not let the promoters of "Red Rottweilers" fool you. The Rottweiler breed is not improved by incorporating this disqualifying genetic fault. Ethical breeders do not intentionally breed for disqualifying faults. And remember, the danger not only resides in the red-coated Rottweiler puppy from a litter but in all the littermates as well, even though the littermates may have a base color of black.

Allowing this trait to spread is a serious threat to the genetic integrity of the Rottweiler breed. The American Rottweiler Club is obligated to educate its members, breeders and Rottweiler fanciers , as well as preserve and protect the Breed for future generations.

[Rott'n'Pit]

i would like to see a picture, any one have a link to one?

[godfreyc]

Here ya go

Red Rottie

[Patty1231]

Don't care for the look, myself. Looks ill. If I wanted a red dog I'd get an Irish Setter. ;)

[Rott'n'Pit]

They are nice looking, but I thinks that due more to my red dobie love of the past. My best friends has as stunning red male that i just love... and his marking are identical to that dogs. weird to see a rottie that looks like that.
i love the first sentence of that link though: About a fools money. Its so true and people will pay an exorbited amount of money to have what they think is a "rare" or one of a kinf dog, no matter the health risks. and then they breed the dog trying to cash in and just make things worse.

If ignorance is bliss then i think some people out there are orgasmic.

[Patty1231]

Originally Posted by Rott'n'Pit

If ignorance is bliss then i think some people out there are orgasmic.

Excellent! :D I'm gonna have to remember that line!

[frontierrots]

Red GReater Swiss Mountain Dogs are more common than Red Rottweilers. Since Rotts and GSMD share a genetic past, they probably share the same red recessive gene as well. Red GSMD are disqualifications as they are for Rottweilers

[spidey]

The American Kennel Club (AKC) is registering Rottweilers displaying this trait, which has never been confirmed as pure bred. The current breed standard distinctly says: "Color: Always black with rust to mahogany markings; and disqualifications: any base color other than black..."

AKC registration says nothing whatsoever about whether the dog meets the breed standard, just that the dog is registered as purebred (and "purebred" also doesn't mean "meets the breed standard" it just means purebred) - parti-coloured Poodles are disqualified in conformation, but they're still purebred Poodles and can be AKC registered. Purebred Rottweilers can be red because of a recessive gene - should you breed them? No. Can you show them in conformation? No. Are they purebred Rottweilers? Yes. Can you register them as such assuming the breeding was witnessed and both parents are purebred (and registered)? Yes.

[spidey]

There's nothing wrong with inbreeding as long as it's done carefully by an educated breeder who's done their homework. People assume that "inbred" means "has nine heads and eats people" and that's simply not true, it just means breeding dogs who have common relatives, which is a perfectly acceptable practice when done carefully and in moderation. Yes, it can increase your chances of problems, but it can also increase your chances of setting type. If there's no genetic problem in the lines, then inbreeding is not a problem, it doesn't create problems which aren't already there, it just makes it more likely that they'll surface (hence the reason for being educated).

Unless you mean "outcrossing" (to other breeds), not "inbreeding", and that's a whole other discussion (suffice it to say that there's not much of it in Rottweilers).

[MontanaRott]

I hope that the red rottweilers do not end up being accepted as the fawn and blue dobes were. To me that is just wrong.I was floored and horrified when fawn and blue dobes became acceptable(and that is just my personal opinion) Rottweilers and black and rust and dobes IMO were meant to be black and rust or red. I do not like the look of the red rottweiler it just looks weird.
I read an article awhile back about some folks that bought a 5k RARE BLACK, TAILED rottweiler and when they took it to a breeder for an evaluation they were stunned to learn they had bought a LAB!

[JD102175]

In the rescue forum Mistyblue just adopted a red rottie. Aptly named "Red". She also posted pics of him in the picture this forum.

Jaime

[Luvs]

Originally Posted by MontanaRott

I read an article awhile back about some folks that bought a 5k RARE BLACK, TAILED rottweiler and when they took it to a breeder for an evaluation they were stunned to learn they had bought a LAB!

LOL for some reason I find that really amusing, altho I am sure the people who paid the 5k don't think so ;) Thats what happens when you don't do your homework first.

[MontanaRott]

Originally Posted by Luvs

LOL for some reason I find that really amusing, altho I am sure the people who paid the 5k don't think so ;) Thats what happens when you don't do your homework first.

I must admit I am guilty of chuckling when I read the article.

[Shelly0390]

They are an animal like every other dog and if, by chance, a litter contains red rotties, give them a loving home just like you would a black and rust colored rottie.

We love our dogs first, show then second. :)