Pet Quality Pups / Show Quality Pups

[Rottnlove]

I'm leaning towards the show quality female on the right with her head turned toward the camera.....I'll let you know if it works out! :)

Isn't she adorable?

[CarolineS]

Maggie

1. Maggie is definitely show quality, but I only had her shown once. I'm just not a competitive person and I don't have the nerves for it. LOL I also wanted to get her spayed right away (she was 2 when I got her) and that would have nixed any show career. Since she was given to me, I didn't request show or pet.

2. She's spayed so showing is a moot point.

3. She has her CGC and is a therapy dog extraordinaire. ;) She has just recently taken up tracking. If she comes along, she may try for her TD at the advanced age of eight or nine. LOL

4. She came from Von Damien Rottweilers which was the #1 Rottweiler kennel in Canada at the time.

Dresden

1. Again, another dog I was lucky enough to be given. Zany little Dresden is pet quality. She has an underbite and is now spayed.

2. Moot point.

3. Dres may not make it in the conformation ring, but she is multi-talented. She has her CGN, TT and is soon going for her therapy dog test. She is a marvel at tracking. After dog camp, I found a tracking course. She's only been to 3 lessons and last week she tracked 220 meters with 3 turns and no food on the track or article! This girl is definitely going to be trying for her TD next spring. I've been bitten by the tracking bug and if she gets her TD, I can see me taking her on to try for her TDX. She also loves agility...don't know if I'd ever show her competitively in that, probably just do it for fun.

4. Dresden is from Darrlburg Rottweilers, owned by Carol Burke. Nancy Estes co-owned her and I offered to take Dresden when her bite went off. First and foremost, she will be my next therapy dog...anything else she does is an added bonus. :)

[LynnS]

1. Bella, my 17 week old Rottie is show quality. She is from a big
litter (9 pups). From what I understand, the owner (who works
with another breeder) was more concerned with finding quality
homes than whether or not the pup would enter the show
ring.

2. We do not intend to show or breed Bella. As an aside I did not
request a show quality puppy and was much more concerned
with temperment.

3. It's a little early yet, but the idea of obedience competition is
intruiging...

4. Bella is from Morgenstern's Rottweilers in Northern California.

[work-n-show]

Connor - 28 months old.

1) Do you have a pet or show quality dog?
- He was pick male and was purchased under a limited show contract. That means if he developed DQ faults I keep him as a pet.

2) If you have a show quality dog, do you show it?
- Yes, as of September, Am./Can. CH.

3) Do you compete in obedience or other venues (non-conformation, doesn't need to be 'show' quality)
- Yes, he is going to be entered "Novice A" OB in Nov. and is currently training SchH as well.

4) Where did you get your dog?
- Local breeder referred to me by other breeders.

I have a desire to have a dog that does well in the conformation ring as well as in the working venue. I am certainly off to a good start. I do not want to see Rottweilers end up like GSD where it is nearly impossible to win in both arenas with the same dog.

As far as Umbro is concerned I know they have frozen semen available. Make sure you like the bitch as well. I like the puppies out of the latest litters, but I prefer not to have tails. With the AKC standard clearly stating the tail is to be docked short, I would think the chances of getting an AKC conformation dog from that breeding would be pretty difficult. Just think about it from all angles before you make a large investment. Make sure you are going to be able to do what you want to do with the puppy you are looking at.

[Trinitii]

My girl Athena is show quality. I thought I would show her but in my area we had limited shows and I couldn't travel as much. I mainly purchased a show quality for the guarantee. I understand no one can guarantee a pup and it may be false hope but it made us feel better to think they must have faith in there breeding if offering a lifetime guarantee. They were also highly known in the rottweiler world. My last pup died before he was three of lupus. I couldn't go through it again and so far so good.

I have to admit my pet quality boy was quite a character and loved the world. I think he made every day count and was extra special since he knew his time would be short.

[Sansano]

As long as they are purebred they are all show quality to me. Of course I am talking about showing in obedience.

:)

[TrinityRun]

Originally posted by Rottnlove
I'm leaning towards the show quality female on the right with her head turned toward the camera.....I'll let you know if it works out! :)

Isn't she adorable?

Hi Rott,

Could you send me some pictures of these two girls stacked? Which color pup is the one on the right?

Email me privately, if you like. Please don't post email addresses. Use the PM feature for that.

[TrishB]

Originally posted by TrishB
I have a theory that MANY dogs that are sold / wanted as 'show quality' don't actually make it to the ring (don't qualify, owners lose interest, etc.). Isn't that a waste of a possible good example of the breed? If all you really wanted was a pet, why not get a pet quality dog?

I happen to know of 3 beautiful, solid tempered, pet quality pups that are available right now (feel free to PM me). Why these wonderful pups have been overlooked is beyond me.

It's kinda like getting a Ferrari and only using it to run over to the corner store.

So, based on the responses - what do you think about the above?

Are people 'wasting' good examples of the breed just for the prestige of owning a 'show dog'? (It doesn't seem like it here, but I'm curious about the general population - I don't see people on this board as the 'Joe Public Dog Owner' )

Do you think that pet quality pups are overlooked due to the 'keeping up with the Jones' mentality?

[Rottnlove]

Originally posted by TrinityRun


Hi Rott,

Could you send me some pictures of these two girls stacked? Which color pup is the one on the right?

Unfortunately I don't have the pics yet. Hopefully, next week. The breeder has been extremely busy and out of town a lot, so things are moving a little slower. :)

Lisa

[mickeymichellie]

1) I have a show quality pup, but I was not looking for one when I got him.

2) We do everything but conformation. Despite the pressure of the show community, I decided that I did not want to keep an intact male in my home for the years it would take to Ch him. His breeder agreed that if I did not want to show him it was ok. Besides, we were not sure if he was going to be show quality, he looked good but you never know. I neutered him before we could tell how he would turn out.

3) He is young still, but we are invloved in obedience, herding, and therapy work. We will be starting in agility and carting once he fills out some, and tracking when he is older.

4) I got my boy from a breeder outside Denver, CO.


I disagree that it is a waste to not show a conformation dog. If I wanted to breed, then I think a Ch. is a must. But that is why he is neutered. I think that the uncontrolable conformation dogs that have never done obedience is what is a waste. Besides, there are a million rotties out there showing, along with many of his relatives. We frequent shows for other things, and we have fun. In hindsight, I am glad that I made the decision to neuter hiim, I like having good looking dogs, but that is for me to decide, not a judge.

[doctahg]

I have 2 15 month old girls now, I had another female who passed last year. All were *show-quality*. The first would have been showable. Unfortunatley she had a form of Lupus which did not kill her but made for lots of problems with her nails and coat. Had we shown her, and bred her, she would have passed these traits on since they didn't start shoeing up till she was 4. Lived till 13.5 though. So it didn't matter that we didn't show her...The more recent 2...We decided not to go the show route. One, Sisi, would be tremendous. Excellent conformation and very trainable, works tirelessly. The other is awesome too, but is a bit of a peanut now, plus is a bit of a nervey nellie...not aggressuvely nervy, just jumpy. She wouldn't have shown well. Her ear cariage is not perfect all the time either, which would have been a problem. When I buy a dog, I look for the most ideally bred specimen I can find, then go from there, which is why I prefer show quality. Doesn't guarantee a good dog, but it's like buying a new car versus a used car. I also prefer owning my dogs from brith so to speak.
I don't feel not showing an excellent specimen is detrimental. I guess i believe the gene pool is plenty large enough as is, and there are plenty of owners who want to play the *game* with showing and breeding. I'm happy as can be just having my *daughters* By the way, my main concern with these 2 was how they got along, which was always incredibly. I spayed them for that reason alone...so they would stay best friends/sisters. No number of championships would have made up for them not being the two happy dogs they are now.
Doc