Weird Crosses

[RottiMomCT]

We had a rottie come into NERR that I believe is a Rott & Basset Hound mix....she's got the rott coloring but has stubby legs like a Bassett Hound, and the droopy face of the Bassett.

Other than that, she's all Rott!

:D

[frau]

I forgot to mention my most beautiful cross: We had a gorgeous Black Great Dane, Black Lab cross.

This dog was the handsomest thing I had ever seen. Long legs, but not as tall as the Dane. Slimmer than a Lab (which look portly to me on a good day). Shorter muzzle than a Dane, but more rectangular than a lab. ears slightly longer than a lab's.

BUT this dog wasn't just dog aggressive, he was a dog hit-man. Because of his extreme agility (not clumsy like a Dane and not plodding like a Lab) and large size he was deadly and ended up put down for that.

He would have let anyone carry all the house hold furnishings away, though.

Frau

[brunie's mom]

I board a Rottweiler/Golden Retriever mix... she is very nice. Sara is black, with very light tan colouring at all the usual colour points.She also has a long thin tail with a small amount of fringe on the tail and a bit of feathering on the legs.
The owners say she is very friendly but does bark and keep watch over their house.

Gina

[chris nanney]

GSD/Great Dane. Had the look and build of a shepherd, but the height of a Dane. He looked like a Giant GSD.

Also, saw three beagle pups and one bluetick pup in a kennel at the rescue shelter. The mother was a beagle and the father a bluetick, however none of the pups looked like mixed breeds. Now that was strange.

[German Vanegas]

Originally posted by Kayla
Someone in my neighborhood has a beautiful male that is a mix of rottie and bull mastiff. He is tall and built like a huge rottie at about 170lbs. His coat is a solid redish tan and his temperment seems calm and friendly. He's a really beautiful big boy!

The Bullmastiff's maximum desired weight is 130 lbs and so is the Rottweiler's, therefore, the 40 extra pounds of that mutt must be fat... What else?

[German Vanegas]

Originally posted by MARYDVM
We just had a Basset X Great Dane come through the clinic. Short legs, about twice as tall as a pure Basset, Great Dane head and ears. I don't know how the parents made it work, but she is a very sweet dog.

Someone hand me a brown bag, please!

[German Vanegas]

Originally posted by Miabella
At the shelter where I volunteer, we had a litter of 10 pups come in last year that the owner swore were a cross between a doberman and a shih tzu. However, they were wire haired with bearded faces and had really short legs with really long bodies. Almost like a wired haired dachshund, but beefier. Now that was a weird cross.

Speechless

[German Vanegas]

Originally posted by RottiMomCT
We had a rottie come into NERR that I believe is a Rott & Basset Hound mix....she's got the rott coloring but has stubby legs like a Bassett Hound, and the droopy face of the Bassett.

Other than that, she's all Rott!

:D

Rott & Basset Hound... all Rott-en?! :D

[German Vanegas]

Originally posted by chris nanney
GSD/Great Dane. Had the look and build of a shepherd, but the height of a Dane. He looked like a Giant GSD.

.

Which makes you wonder how some GSD breeders are advertasing their lines of dogs at 140 lbs! ;) Huuuuge out of standards GSDs

[TrishB]

Originally posted by German Vanegas


The Bullmastiff's maximum desired weight is 130 lbs and so is the Rottweiler's, therefore, the 40 extra pounds of that mutt must be fat... What else?

The Neopolitan Mastiff X Rottie I know is taller than both of the breeds he came from (he's about 36 inches at the shoulder, the max for a Neo is 31 inches). So it is possible for two smaller crosses to generate a larger dog - genetics are a strange and wonderful thing! :)

Max was 160lbs the last I heard - he's lean and trim. Quite athletic for his size really! :)

[German Vanegas]

Originally posted by TrishB
So it is possible for two smaller crosses to generate a larger dog - genetics are a strange and wonderful thing! :)

What's so wonderful about random-careless crossbreeding? I for one don't condone genetic mutants. I prefer the preservation of purebreds within the desired specific standards. I think that people that allow their pets to mate haphazardly, to produce unpredictable mutations, are quite irresponsible. Not that I have anything against mutts, spare me! My problems is with humans in the form of dog breeders and dog owners ;)

Originally posted by TrishB
Max was 160lbs the last I heard - he's lean and trim. Quite athletic for his size really! :)

Let us not confuse the Bullmastiff with the Neapolitan; there are many differences between the two breeds, including weight. Neapolitan mastiffs are 150 to 190 lbs., so what's to wonder?! Their athleticism I dispute though ;)

[TrishB]

Originally posted by German Vanegas
Let us not confuse the Bullmastiff with the Neapolitan; there are many differences between the two breeds, including weight. Neapolitan mastiffs are 150 to 190 lbs., so what's to wonder?! Their athleticism I dispute though ;)

I'm not confusing them, I was only speaking of the cross that I was aware of. ;) According the Neo standard:

Height: Dogs: 26 to 31 inches, Bitches: 24 to 29 inches. Average weight of mature Dogs: 150 pounds; Bitches: 110 pounds. Rottweiler: Dogs--24 inches to 27 inches. Bitches--22 inches to 25 inches.

So Max is quite a lot larger than either of the two breeds he's mixed with. Never mind that he's black/brown brindle - which isn't a colour variation of either! And again, I was only speaking of the dog that I knew of. He's the most athletic of the multidog household (Rottie, Neo. Mastiff {no, not the parents of Max}, Aussie Shepherd and Ruby the Dobe who is now waiting at the bridge). He's a very impressive boy! :D

As for crosses, I don't advocate them, but they do happen. Like it or not, they do compromise the majority of canines sharing homes in North America (I've had a few mixes and mutts over the years). So while I wouldn't approve of someone intentially making a mix bred pup, I don't hold that against the pups themselves! :)

[German Vanegas]

Originally posted by TrishB
I'm not confusing them, I was only speaking of the cross that I was aware of.

Well, you referred to my reply "Too heavy" addressed to Kayla, who described a Bulmastiff-Rottweiler cross, and you said something about the Neapolitan mastiff, that's where the confusion arise. Anyway, believe me when I tell you that there are plenty of Neos over the 150 lbs. mark; where 180 to 190 lbs. Neos are quite common, albeit in detriment of the breed's health but that doesn't stop breeders in their quest for super-heavyweights

Originally posted by TrishB
... So while I wouldn't approve of someone intentially making a mix bred pup, I don't hold that against the pups themselves! :)

I said so myself in different words. The only thing I want to make clear is: crossbreeding, for the sake of it, is plain wrong!

[DanaDW]

Originally posted by German Vanegas


I said so myself in different words. The only thing I want to make clear is: crossbreeding, for the sake of it, is plain wrong!

I agree with one exception....development of a new breed, as in the case of the Dogo Argentino. I've personally never bred a dog or cat, all my "mutts" are "fixed" before 6 months & I certainly wouldn't advocate for myself or any other amateur to even attempt it but I do appreciate the people who have enriched the canine world with dedicated selective breeding.

Most, if not all, of the breeds in existence today are the result of cross-breeding at some point in the past (Dobermans, Dogos, many terrier types, hound types etc). In the hands of knowledgeable people I think there is a case for it. The Rott itself was developed (waaaaaaaay back) from several breeds of dog. I don't think dogs would be as loved today if humans hadn't intervened and bred selectively for qualities humans value.

Again, I certainly wouldn't try it nor should just anyone who is curious to see "what would I get" but I think there is that one in a million exception.

[German Vanegas]

Originally posted by DanaDW


I agree with one exception....development of a new breed, as in the case of the Dogo Argentino.

The Dogo Argentino is not the only breed that is the result of crossbreding. You will find that all breeds are the result of it. What I clearly referred to is, that cross-breeding, for the sake of it, is plain wrong. Of course there are cases where a breed is genetically engineered and so is developed. Take for instance the case of the awesome Black Russian Terrier created in the late 60's. That's a breed that was designed with an specific purpose by the former Red Soviet Army. They succeeded at achieving their expectations. However, again, those designed breeds are not the result of letting dogs mate casually, the latter are called mutts and mongrels. The difference is abysmal!