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Old 04-03-2002, 04:50 AM
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at 7 months old, how much did your dogs way for those that can remember as well as those who's dogs are at that age currently,moto is 70lbs but doesn't look fat and the vet said he is looking good, however i have had an excellent trainer on this forum tell me he is to haevy , so i will most likely cut back on his feed, but i am just curious to everyone's weight at 7 months
 
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Old 04-03-2002, 08:54 AM
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If he isn't fat, I would not worry about it. I don't see how someone on this forum can say he is too heavy without seeing him. How big were his parents? One thing I have noticed is there are many different growth rates.

You really can't dictate how fast your dog grows. As long as he isn't fat, then genetics will determine the rest.
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Old 04-03-2002, 09:57 AM
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michael c his dad was 125lbs and mom was 95 to 100 lbs.
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Old 04-03-2002, 10:29 AM
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he will most likely be the same size as his dad. I would not be worried about his weight. As long as he doesn't look fat. Just make sure he is getting plenty of exercise.
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Old 04-03-2002, 11:12 AM
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he will most likely be the same size as his dad
How so? What is the genetic indicator that this pup will grow like his dad?...

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I would not be worried about his weight. As long as he doesn't look fat.
Do you know much food the pup is eating at his age?... How can you determine that a 7 months old pup is not fat?...

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Just make sure he is getting plenty of exercise.
And how much is "plenty of exercise" for a 7 months old pup?... Please, enlighten us.

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Old 04-03-2002, 12:58 PM
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1. There isn't a way to see into the future, but by looking at the parents, you can get a good idea. Both parents are withing the standard, so I would assume that this dog will grow up to be within the standard as long as they are not over feeding.

2. I assumed that since the vet said the dog was not over weight, the person was feeding the correct amount of food.

3. Short walks, play fetc, obedience training.

The person wanted to kow how much everyones dog weight at 7 months old. If I told her my dogs weight at 7 months, she would assume that her dog is overweight. I was just stating that they all grow at different rates.
It's hard to tell without seeing the dog. I don't know why someone told this person the dog was fat, without seeing it.

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Old 04-03-2002, 01:11 PM
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I adopted Ben when he was 10 months old, and he weighed about 80 lbs. He is now almost 3 yrs old, and is only 85 lbs. He is not a big boy, and he has a defined waist, can feel ribs thru skin, can barely see his last rib if he's standing straight.
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Old 04-03-2002, 07:27 PM
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1. There isn't a way to see into the future, but by looking at the parents, you can get a good idea. Both parents are withing the standard, so I would assume that this dog will grow up to be within the standard as long as they are not over feeding.
Unfortunately, it does not work that way. There are puppies from the "choicest" parents that don't develop up to standards or like their "dads".

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2. I assumed that since the vet said the dog was not over weight, the person was feeding the correct amount of food..
Well, would you believe that this pup is being feed with 3 cups of Canidae food in the morning and 3 cups at night?... That amount of food is normally fed to a 140 lbs ADULT dog ;)

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3. Short walks, play fetc, obedience training...
Thanks for clarifying that part, because just recommending "plenty of exercise" may lead novices to grossly misinterpret such advise and over exercise their pups, which it happens more often than not ;)
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Old 04-03-2002, 08:26 PM
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I guess I was mis infromed. 6 cups is a lot of food. My dog is 3 and only eats 4 cups.
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Old 04-04-2002, 12:40 PM
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I agree with Michael C. Viewing the parents of a dog will give you a good idea as to what they will be. Note that I said "idea" and not exactly. ;) Their parents will represent a guide as to what you can anticipate. However, nothing is absolute.

I truly think that too many people are getting hung up on weight. If your vet feels that your dog is at a healthy weight for him, he's at a healthy weight! ;)

And as Michael said - every dog grows differently (I've said this in another thread). Some are growthy, some stocky, some gangly, some lean, etc. So comparing his weight to other pups will only serve to confuse you. The way your dog is growing is right for your dog. Your vet is the best judge of if his weight is good for him.

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Moto is 70lbs but doesn't look fat and the vet said he is looking good....
Congratulations on owning a healthy pup! Keep up the great work! :)
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Old 04-04-2002, 03:09 PM
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I agree with Michael C. Viewing the parents of a dog will give you a good idea as to what they will be. Note that I said "idea" and not exactly. ;) Their parents will represent a guide as to what you can anticipate. However, nothing is absolute.
Again, the fact is that puppies from the best planned litters and the "choicest" parents don't always grow and develop to desired standards, and don't even look close to their "dads." Just because the dad is this multi-titled stud champion that does not mean that he can consistently produce offsprings that will become champions… There are always runts in all litters. So, I agree: nothing is an absolute ;)

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Your vet is the best judge of if his weight is good for him.
Well, that depends on how good is the vet and his/er own particular knowledge about the specific breed in question. I have heard from vets way off opinions about the Rottweiler breed... But then again, how can you expect a vet to know about the desired standards of just about 400 breeds! ;) I even know vets that refuse to treat Rottweilers unless they are muzzled

By the way, in a private message I was told that the pup weighted 75 lbs. It seems like he lost 5 pounds in one day.
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Old 04-04-2002, 03:26 PM
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Again, the fact is that puppies from the best planned litters and the "choicest" parents don't always grow and develop to desired standards, and don't even look close to their "dads." Just because the dad is this multi-titled stud champion that does not mean that he can consistently produce offspring to become champions… There are always runts in all litters. So, I agree: nothing is an absolute.
We're not talking about working or confirmation titles. We're talking about a guide to assessing a dog's potential weight. Please don't take comments out of context. We're talking averages here - typically, a dogs final weight is similar to their parents. Of course there are exceptions - but they are not the rule.

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Well, that depends on how good is the vet and his/er own particular knowledge about the specific breed in question. I have heard from vets way off opinions about the Rottweiler breed... But then again, how can you expect a vet to know about the desired standards of just about 400 breeds! ;) I even know vets that refuse to treat Rottweilers unless they are muzzled
Again - taken within context, vets are the best judges of an individual animal's weight and health. The standard of that dog doesn't matter if his own build calls him to be heavier (or lighter) than the standard. Each individual is assessed on an individual basis. Just because the standard calls for a dog to be between X and Y doesn't mean that a healthy weight for an INDIVIDUAL dog cannot be Z. That is healthy for THEM.

Healthy is healthy. Breed Standards are a completely different ball of wax. If your dog's healthy weight is outside of the standard - it is useless to use the standard as your guide. Your VET is the best judge of HEALTH. A JUDGE is the best judge of confirmation/ability. One has nothing to do with the other (although, one definitely compliments the other ;)).

If you don't trust your vet's judgement, than may I suggest that you find a new vet that you're comfortable with?
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Old 04-04-2002, 03:48 PM
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Please don't take comments out of context.
Well forgive me for expressing my opinion then. Perhaps agreeing with you on this matter would have avoid the upsetting?


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If you don't trust your vet's judgement, than may I suggest that you find a new vet that you're comfortable with?

Sure! To believe that all vets are infallible error-free superior beings is a mistake. You find excellent, good, mediocre and lousy vets. I have seen them all! You better make sure yours is a good one at least.
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Old 04-04-2002, 04:11 PM
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Well forgive me for expressing my opinion then. Perhaps agreeing with you on this matter would have avoid the upsetting?
You're more than welcome to your opinion! :) That's why we're all here! Just as I was expressing my own opinion, within it's own context, on the topic at hand. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Sure! To believe that all vets are infallible error-free superior beings is a mistake. You find excellent, good, mediocre and lousy vets. I have seen them all! You better make sure yours is a good one at least.
I suggested no such thing. Again, there's no reason to take this off topic or out of context.

I believe we've both given our opinions on this topic of 'what is a healthy weight'. Thanks for your interest! :)
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Old 04-04-2002, 04:16 PM
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I suggested no such thing. Again, there's no reason to take this off topic or out of context.
Giving one's opinion should not be addressed as taken out of context or off topic ;) Opinions: we all have one
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