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Old 01-19-2002, 10:08 PM
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Is there any link at all with a very well bred Rotti and K-9 or human agression?

SO I am wondering if their exists a link or correlation bewteen a very Well bred Rotti with very extensive championships for his parents, in schz. and dog agression or human agression, or I guess agression at all....not sure how to pharse the question better.... clearly a world class background well lead to a very confident and strong prey driven dog, but does this equate to agression or the possibility of agression....sorry for the lack of clarity...
 
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Old 01-19-2002, 11:12 PM
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If said well bred Rotti hasn't been properly trained and/or socialized, then I would have to say that YES, the possiblility does exist for aggression...either dog or human, or both...it all depends on the HUAMN owners of said dog and what they do with it.

The pedigree of the dog is a foundation for the dog...what the dog becomes is up to the people that own it.
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Old 01-20-2002, 05:15 PM
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First and foremost, the Rottweiler race is of the species canine and it is DOG behavior that needs to be studied, so if you are asking what kinds of DOGS can be aggressive, the answer is, any kind. Well bred, self-confident and poorly raised dogs can become aggressive. Poorly bred but self-confident and poorly raised dogs can become aggressive. Well bred, but weak-nerved dogs can become aggressive. Poorly bred and weak nerved dogs can become aggressive. A dog with high prey drive and no proper upbringing can end up in the soup with biting incidents......

Your intended premise - that the well-bred confident Rottweiler is more likely to become aggressive indicates a lack of knowledge of canine behavior. The unprovoked bite is most often from a weak-nerved dog out of fear and/or inappropriate defense. This applies to all dogs, not just Rottweilers. The difference that I see with the Rottweiler, it that it is important that it belong to intelligent owners with a sense of responsiblity because they are very intelligent themselves, but all dogs of any breed are quick to spot a fraud in the leadership department.
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Old 01-21-2002, 09:37 AM
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It sounds as if what Ivan is asking is whether or not breeding for Schutzhund results in more aggression than would breeding for other objectives. That is, if someone gets pups out of a Schutzhund-champion line, are they more likely to get a pup with aggression issues?

Ivan - is this a decent restatement of your question?
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Old 01-21-2002, 11:09 AM
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The Rottweiler is a working breed. A working breed generally should have stronger drives.

When a working dog finds him/herself living in a situation where there is a failure to channel drives and condition the dog to direct the drive in a positive......the dog will channel it the way he sees fit; and the human end of the lead is going to be more than a little surprised.

Problems develop when a working dog finds himself in a novice pet home. The dog.....will be more dog than the owner will ever be dog-handler.
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Old 01-21-2002, 06:55 PM
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A well bred working dog has high drives. In my personal experience, I had a well bred rottweiler puppy with high drives who was too much dog for my wife to keep around the house, so the good breeder took him back. That was the first dog I ever had problems with, and he had the most drive of any dog I've had up to that time.
My next dog is the one I have now. He's an American Bulldog who can be described as easy going at home, very loving, friendly and outgoing in public. But when it's time for bitework, he transforms into a prey driven maniac! Another guy in my Shutzhund club has a German rottweiler who can be described in much the same way.
A high drive dog can be aggressive, but then again some dogs can have just as much drive but be great pets at home.
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