white patch on chest and tips of paws on my rott pup

[brikz]

i have a 8 week old pup and he is all black and has a white patch on his chest and a little bit of white on the tips of his paws, i have read thta if i was 2 show this pup he would b dq cause all rotts are black and tan but i have read online that its rare but some pups are born like mine cause of genitic defect or inbreeding . 2 me he looks like all rott 2 me but can he be mix? or is he all rott ? any feedback would be apreaciated thanks

[OnyxGold1]

White is a recessive gene in rottweilers. Occasionally it does rear its head in litters. I have seen litters that have had a white patch on their chest.....I've never seen a white patch or white markings other than the chest however. If you're saying that he is all black however, I would certainly suspect a crossbreed. With lab crossbreeds I have seen the markings that you have described on the toes.

In breed standard for a rottweiler having white markings other than an occasional white individual hair is a full disqualification.

Did they give you registration papers for this puppy?? Is he supposed to be a purebred?

Heather

[rottcrazed]

If you were contemplating showing your pup, why would you have accepted a puppy who has an obvious disqualifying fault?

Was the breeder aware you were looking to show your pup?

White marks can happen even in the best possible breedings, so it is not a big deal overall, but it is a DQ.

Kristi

[brikz]

Originally Posted by OnyxGold1

White is a recessive gene in rottweilers. Occasionally it does rear its head in litters. I have seen litters that have had a white patch on their chest.....I've never seen a white patch or white markings other than the chest however. If you're saying that he is all black however, I would certainly suspect a crossbreed. With lab crossbreeds I have seen the markings that you have described on the toes.

In breed standard for a rottweiler having white markings other than an occasional white individual hair is a full disqualification.

Did they give you registration papers for this puppy?? Is he supposed to be a purebred?

Heather

well no registration papers i dident pay extream money 4 him but i did see the mom and dad and they were beasts, also i saw his liter mates and they all looked good 2 me i just liked that he was all black and dident really pay much attention 2 the white markings just thinking that he was unique .....so you think he may have a bit of lab in him?
i hope not thats not what i wanted but if he was 2 b mixed with lab how would that affect my pup ? would that detract frm the rott in him by much ?

[brikz]

Originally Posted by rottcrazed

If you were contemplating showing your pup, why would you have accepted a puppy who has an obvious disqualifying fault?

Was the breeder aware you were looking to show your pup?

White marks can happen even in the best possible breedings, so it is not a big deal overall, but it is a DQ.

Kristi

well i wasent planning on showing him but now that i have seen him grow 4 a while he is a real good looking pup with a ton of potential but i do understand that he would b dq automaticly because of the white

[warriec]

you have to look 2 ways at this situation.

1) you really love your rottie and it does not matter what disqualifying marks etc.. he may have.

2) you want to show him/ breed him which i dont think is possible because you dont have registration papers and best if you nueter him.

I have heard people are breeding rottie males to black lab females to get bigger heads. They are sold as Labs as they fetch a better demand because of the size.

Standards are guidelines to define beauty, if you deviate from the standard then you are faulty.

[brunie's mom]

Originally Posted by brikz

well i wasent planning on showing him but now that i have seen him grow 4 a while he is a real good looking pup with a ton of potential but i do understand that he would b dq automaticly because of the white

Your unregistered puppy cannot be shown. Get your puppy neutered when he is old enough and enjoy him as the pet he is.

Gina

[observer]

If they were not careful with the female when she was in season, the father they showed you may not have been the father of that pup. So, he may in fact be a mix, or a purebred with faults. Litters can come from several fathers if the access to the female is not controlled.

Get him neutered when it's time, love him, and have fun with him.

[TrinaJ]

Unfortunately as the other members have said as he isn't registered you cannot show him. If he were registered he would be DQ because of the fault, white in a rottweiler is a disqualifying fault.

Your best bet would be to have him neutered. Showing isn't everything, just love him, socialise him and train him and you'll have a friend for life.

[brikz]

well regardless of any "faults" i love my pup and will keep him as long as he lives but just confused with him being a full rott or a mix with a lab ...its unfourtunite that i cant show him in the future by not having papers but he is a wickid lookin pup so far ....is there any way i can find out what he really is??? and if he is a mix with a lab would that detract the rottie in him? i would love for him 2 b a home guardian and maybe train him in schutzhound in the near future , I will post as many good pics as i can of him this week and maybe then i will have a better idea of what he is

[warriec]

You will have to wait for around 2 years to him to finish growing before you can confirm what mix he is. Most of the time he could be a pure bred rottie but not bred to breed standard.

[FilosFolks]

There are a lot of activities you can still do with your dog, just not the show ring.
My 15wk old Lexi looks just like you describe, and the jury is still out on what her Dad was exactly. When I got the call, I was told Lexi was Fylo's little sister (and they do share the same Mommy, and a spot on the chest) but she has a lab's muzzle and a white toe. Just put up a new pic and will get a body shot on here soon...

Fylo is a rescue from my old neighbor, a typical BYB.

I think a lab found this guy's bitch left outside in a kennel, unsupervised. This litter was black, but Lexi's brothers had block heads and shorter muzzles compared to her so who knows, and who cares IMO, she needed a home.

Did the littermates have any markings? Or was the entire litter like yours?

Can't you ask this "breeder" about the possibility of your pup being a mix? Or does he just think black rotts are so common, it's not even worth discussing??

As far as how it will affect his rottenness it will depend on who Dad is. There are many, many, good rotten mixes out there. Have fun & good luck with your baby.

Ailee, Fylo, & Lexi Marie

[brikz]

Originally Posted by FilosFolks

There are a lot of activities you can still do with your dog, just not the show ring.
My 15wk old Lexi looks just like you describe, and the jury is still out on what her Dad was exactly. When I got the call, I was told Lexi was Fylo's little sister (and they do share the same Mommy, and a spot on the chest) but she has a lab's muzzle and a white toe. Just put up a new pic and will get a body shot on here soon...

Fylo is a rescue from my old neighbor, a typical BYB.

I think a lab found this guy's bitch left outside in a kennel, unsupervised. This litter was black, but Lexi's brothers had block heads and shorter muzzles compared to her so who knows, and who cares IMO, she needed a home.

Did the littermates have any markings? Or was the entire litter like yours?

Can't you ask this "breeder" about the possibility of your pup being a mix? Or does he just think black rotts are so common, it's not even worth discussing??

As far as how it will affect his rottenness it will depend on who Dad is. There are many, many, good rotten mixes out there. Have fun & good luck with your baby.

Ailee, Fylo, & Lexi Marie

I would love 2 see some pics of your pup ! im gonna take a bunch of mine and post em up . all the other litter mates had all perfect markings and mine and another 1 were the "unique" ones in the bunch that were black ...next time i think i will just get 1 shipped frm the states frm a ruputable breeder with all the papers

[brunie's mom]

Originally Posted by brikz

I would love 2 see some pics of your pup ! im gonna take a bunch of mine and post em up . all the other litter mates had all perfect markings and mine and another 1 were the "unique" ones in the bunch that were black ...next time i think i will just get 1 shipped frm the states frm a ruputable breeder with all the papers

No need to do that. We have some very good breeders here in Canada. Take a look at the Rottweiler Club of Canada website.
Learn what a reputable breeder is first.

Gina

[targonrotts]

you said you would like to know what your pup might be, look up dna testing for breed analysis. there are tests where you swab the cheek and send in with a fee to determine what breed or mix of breed your dog is.(limited to thirty something breeds, i believe).
just because the pup has no papers or might be mixed does not mean you can't still have fun with your pup-there are many things you can still do and train in.