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Old 04-01-2008, 10:38 AM
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Re: The best line to continue with mambo von der crossener ranch and balou vom silbeblick

Hallo from europe.About mambo's issue and his offsprings do you see all his production ?we talk about a dog which even bitches from Mars have paired with him and you are talking about two or three offsprings.I can't understand why a dog which was looks like a rot-pikinoa has the title of being prototype, is that a rottweiler standard male?or maybe is it a well advertised stud which is thought that it gives good line.In his stud value and in his time there where studs with better blood lines in my personal opinion. Thank you.
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Old 04-01-2008, 10:41 AM
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Re: The best line to continue with mambo von der crossener ranch and balou vom silbeblick

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i wanna ask you ,who do you think that is the best male to continue with different lines of mambo and balou, this is because those dogs to me, they are amazing, so i wanna focus to try to follow this lines, so what are your choice?
Hallo from europe.About mambo's issue and his offsprings do you see all his production ?we talk about a dog which even bitches from Mars have paired with him and you are talking about two or three offsprings.I can't understand why a dog which was looks like a rot-pikinoa has the title of being prototype, is that a rottweiler standard male?or maybe is it a well advertised stud which is thought that it gives good line.In his stud value and in his time there where studs with better blood lines in my personal opinion. Thank you.
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Old 04-06-2008, 11:18 AM
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I am breeding Crom di Alaricus Rex, a Mambo Son, being bred with Zelina vom Hause Neubrand and Crom is a proven producer...he is currently at Herash in Italy. I believe Crom to be a great Mambo son!
I know this dog, is from Mambo vd Crossner Ranch and mother is from Jackomo vd Bleichstrasse Line daughter of one of best Jackomo son Indio dell'Antico Guerriero
I see Crom offsprings, very very good dogs!
I think Crom is more on Rick von Burghtann type

The owner of Crom have breed his Odo vom Fleischer daughter, i am curious to see what come form this litter
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Old 04-06-2008, 02:48 PM
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Re: The best line to continue with mambo von der crossener ranch and balou vom silbeblick

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Another to consider is a Balou son and that is Carlos Von Den Golan Hohen.. He is a consistant producer. the owner of this dogs is fabulous to work with and he is honest and will research your pedigree and will tell you if he thinks it will work or not. He tries to produce better then and according to standard. I have a male from Carlos and everyone that has seen him including the Carlos's owner is amazed how much he truely look like Carlos. It is quite scary they are that alike. I can't wait for this boy to mature. He has the perfect temperment. Knows when and where it is time to work and then can go and lay with my children or play with our 20lb whippet. He has tremendous drive but it is like a switch he can turn on or off

good luck in your search.

Herbie is another good dog to look at if you have access to him.

This thread is wonderful. When the time comes I can arrange my girl with Colt von den Golan Hohen. I was looking at a Mambo son, but was advised against it. Dog base brought up the fact of Conny Vom Muhlberg is HD+++. More than likely this has not been carried through the line, but I don't want to be the one that has a litter where it will pop up!
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Old 04-06-2008, 06:21 PM
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Re: The best line to continue with mambo von der crossener ranch and balou vom silbeblick

Arkon will be here in the US ( California ) in a couple of months for some breedings. If I read the original post right the female is mixed with Bronko so probably has some size. Arkon makes nice pups with the big females where he is from.
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Old 04-06-2008, 07:05 PM
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Re: The best line to continue with mambo von der crossener ranch and balou vom silbeblick

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..... Ex, Herbie, Maik vd Frankentanne are all examples. Amigo, Lewis and some other sons are short 62-63cm tall but have the typey head/ short muzzle which is the 'Mambo look'. If the female is 61-62+cm tall and has the substance, I think some of the shorter males would be OK.
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I KNOW I'm slightly biased here, but I think my boy Shane is the top Maik son ever...and YES I know Maik died early (between 5 and 6 years old) from heart issues, but Shane is cardiologist cleared, and I haven't seen Maik's numbers for cardiac issues in his progeny any higher than any top studs from germany. Shane is a very substantial male also. Maik was a large male.
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Old 04-09-2008, 07:44 AM
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Re: The best line to continue with mambo von der crossener ranch and balou vom silbeblick

I think that again the most modern line in germany and also in europe for 2007 is rick vom burgthann line and you have a lot of his pruduct to choose for studing the most typical males from them.like rex von der bleichstrasse
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Old 04-19-2008, 01:52 AM
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Re: The best line to continue with mambo von der crossener ranch and balou vom silbeblick

hello my friends this is me again, in fact ,i can see that most of the people said that the best line comes from doc, but i have read something about doc and his progeny ,and that is doc line have unstable character, and balou's line have better character and this information i saw in a interview to adrk's judge, i don't remeber very well but i think that was radke.so, What do you think?

And yes in fact the female is bronco's granddaughter , but she has 60-61cm of size
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Old 04-19-2008, 07:52 AM
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Re: The best line to continue with mambo von der crossener ranch and balou vom silbeblick

Charecters come from lines and more importantly mothers lines also contribute . None of the modern dogs corresponds to ONE SINGLE DOG such as DOC line etc etc . Most modern rottweilers who carry doc also carry pretty much every influential sire in the last 10-15 years in their 5 gen pedigree . We have to look at a per dog basis rather then charecterise everything . Balou lines are ok charecter vise from my expereince but you have yo worry about Light eyes aswell with them .

I suggests you show us pictures of your bitch so that we can see what is deffeceint and what her strong points are . Breeding on pedigrees alone is not complete breeding.
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Old 04-19-2008, 09:58 AM
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Re: The best line to continue with mambo von der crossener ranch and balou vom silbeblick

This thread is interesting as I have a Bronko grandson and a Balou grandaughter that I plan to breed in the future. His temperment seems soft at times but he has head and bone second to none. She has temperment to die for but is lacking size. He was bred more from dogs to show and she was bred from working dogs of vom Schloss Hexental kennel. Oh how I wish I could hand pick the genes from each of them because they are both very close to being excellent dogs.

Light eyes is another interesting subject and breeding dogs from either Bronko or Balou could get you light eyes. My boy has maybe the darkest eyes of any Bronko offspring I've ever seen ( somewhere between 2A and 2B ) but most everything from Bronko lines has light eyes, more so than Balou.
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Old 05-04-2008, 04:26 PM
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Re: The best line to continue with mambo von der crossener ranch and balou vom silbeblick

Doc was somewhat apathetic and definitely transmitted this trait to his direct offspring to a high degree. He produced one of the most popular sires ever in Rick and now Mambo continues that legacy. Difficult to quantify where this leaves the modern Rottweiler temperament wise, but their collective contribition to improving the breed's exterior qualities is undeniable.

Balou was more erratic in his confromation production but he gave the possibility of transmitting a respectable temperament depending on the bitch he was bred to.
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