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Old 11-27-2008, 03:37 PM
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Tibetan Mastiff

I met an old gent today, and he has been breeding and showing rotties for over 45 years. we started talking about the history of Rottweilers, and he told me that our modern day Rotts come from the Tibetan Mastiff. is this true? from the pics i saw i can maybe see it .. wasnt sure where to put this thread, sorry if it's in the wrong section.

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Old 11-27-2008, 04:38 PM
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Re: Tibetan Mastiff

They sure look related! :)
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Old 11-27-2008, 05:05 PM
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They sure look related! :)
they sure do, but i can't seem to find any facts supporting the relationship ... yet.
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Old 11-27-2008, 05:29 PM
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Re: Tibetan Mastiff

http://www.rottweiler.net/forums/sea...archid=1373396

If you look in some of the older threads, the theories have been discussed.
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Old 11-27-2008, 06:56 PM
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If you look in some of the older threads, the theories have been discussed.
whats your personal opinion?
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Old 11-27-2008, 08:13 PM
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Re: Tibetan Mastiff

I definitely see a few matching characteristics and imo they're related, but as nelsonm64 said, there are no facts supporting this..yet.
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Old 11-27-2008, 09:22 PM
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whats your personal opinion?

I think it's possible. The TM is an ancient breed. The Rottweiler is more neotonized.
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Old 11-28-2008, 12:38 AM
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Re: Tibetan Mastiff

Everything that I have read about mastiff-type dogs and livestock guardians like Pyrs agrees that the TM is probably the prototype for all of them. It's theory that it gradually spread from Asia to Europe and changed to adapt to local climates and work demands. As Rotts are descended from the ancient working/guardings dogs of the Romans that travelled to Germany, it is entirely possible that the TM does figure in its developement, albeit distantly.
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Re: Tibetan Mastiff

Back when I had a long haiered rott it was easier for me to say it was a Tibetian mastiff than trying to explain genetics of why he had long hair.
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Re: Tibetan Mastiff

Hi, I joined this forum specifically for this thread. We adopted a male rottie two years ago and assumed he was a mix of some sort, best guess was shepherd. However, after stumbling over a few pictures of Tibetan Mastiffs I am inclined to think he might be one of them. I plan on having a DNA test done just to satisfy my own curiosity. We will still love him, even if he isn't a "real" Rott Are there any suggestions as to a specific brand of test I should use or not use??? Thanks and looking forward to reading more on this forum. Tim
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Hi, I joined this forum specifically for this thread. We adopted a male rottie two years ago and assumed he was a mix of some sort, best guess was shepherd. However, after stumbling over a few pictures of Tibetan Mastiffs I am inclined to think he might be one of them. I plan on having a DNA test done just to satisfy my own curiosity. We will still love him, even if he isn't a "real" Rott Are there any suggestions as to a specific brand of test I should use or not use??? Thanks and looking forward to reading more on this forum. Tim
Hi Tim, welcome to RDN. i personally would like to see a picture if you could post one?
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Hi, I joined this forum specifically for this thread. We adopted a male rottie two years ago and assumed he was a mix of some sort, best guess was shepherd. However, after stumbling over a few pictures of Tibetan Mastiffs I am inclined to think he might be one of them. I plan on having a DNA test done just to satisfy my own curiosity. We will still love him, even if he isn't a "real" Rott Are there any suggestions as to a specific brand of test I should use or not use??? Thanks and looking forward to reading more on this forum. Tim
Those DNA tests are basicly worthless for anything but a good laugh. . Love your dog and don't worry about what he is.
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Re: Tibetan Mastiff

I fell in love with the Tibetan at Westminster this year. Beautiful dog.

It would not surprise me if there is a common thread somewhere WAY back, as someone else suggested.
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