Looking for breeder for our 2nd Rott

[Luvman]

I've been a long time lurker and have enjoyed the wealth of knowledge here. I'm looking for the next member of our family.

We adopted our first Rott, Hannah, 2 1/2 years ago from a local animal shelter. She has long hair, a great personality, is great with our 2 yr old daughter, has a high play drive, and loves other animals. She's never met a stranger and is still very much a puppy at heart even at 3 1/2 yrs old. She is spayed and we have no plans of breeding our next dog.

We've decided on another dog and that it will be another Rott. This time we plan on finding a reputable breeder.

We're not looking for a show dog just another member of the family. We want excellent health and temperament. We'd like our next Rott to not be so accepting of strangers. yet we're not looking for a PP dog.

I'd like to find a breeder within reasonable driving distance of Louisville, Ky. I'd like to be able to see the litter and pick up the pup. I'm not crazy about having a pup shipped.

We're not opposed to rescuing another dog. We figure we'd just have a better chance for health and temperament with a breeder.

Hannah hasn't had professional training. I have taught her sit, stay, come, down, leave it, drop it, and heal. she does well but she's not 100%. We're also looking for a good trainer.

Does anyone know of any Rottweiler breeders and good trainers in the KY/ southern Indiana area.

Thanks in advance,
Laddie

[Shelby427]

we're not allowed to discuss breeders here, but if you look in the breeding forum, you'll find the right questions to ask a real, COE breeder and what good answers would be.

Good luck!

[Kevlarsdad]

i know of a few sites that you can visit and make your decision from there. I cannot say that any of these people are COE breeders... you need to make that decision on your own when you contact them.

or

you can look up in your local newspaper to see if any breeders have litters.

[AngelBunny]

Originally Posted by Kevlarsdad

...you can look up in your local newspaper to see if any breeders have litters.

Anyone who knows anything about breeding would not make this suggestion since putting ads in the local newspaper is the primary method by which BYBs sell their puppies.

[Shelby427]

Originally Posted by Kevlarsdad

i know of a few sites that you can visit and make your decision from there. I cannot say that any of these people are COE breeders... you need to make that decision on your own when you contact them.

or

you can look up in your local newspaper to see if any breeders have litters.

email me...

Usually the ads in the papers are NOT COE breeders. Usually, COE breeders already have people lined up for puppies. They generally do not have to advertise. I would NOT go the newspaper route.

[debbiej]

go to shows, find breed clubs and training clubs and look around. I wouldn't look for a pup from websites unless it is just your first contact to meeting the breeder and asking questions. nor would I ask a vet. and never papers. sometimes breed magazines have breeders listed, but again, should only be the initial contact for a breeder, not puppy ads.

I'm going to find a rottie pup someday, and I am resigned to traveling.

[brunie's mom]

The newspaper is NOT the place to start looking for a puppy...this is where BYB's most often advertise.
Start by going to dog shows, and making note of the dogs you like...not only for conformation but for obedience events also.

Even though you only want a pet/companion dog...to get that, you either need to buy a puppy from a COE breeder, or adopt one from a rescue.

I would also suggest you look up the website for the American Rottweiler Club.

If and when you do get another dog, it should be a male....easiest to have dogs that are opposite sex.

Gina

[Kevlarsdad]

You all are right about the news papers. I was typing as fast as i could and had diarreah of the hands. lol.

I forgot to add the Am. rott club and akc website.

Arturo

[OnyxGold1]

Another thing that you might have to keep in mind during your search for your next breeder is your desire to pick your own puppy. I know with my litters for instance, while I encourage selected homes to come down meet mom and see the litter together, I further make it very clear that I am the one selecting the puppy for the family.

A knowledgeable breeder has spent 8 weeks with these puppies and will know about things like dominance, showability, puppy personalities, etc. There are so many that believe that the first puppy that comes to them is the puppy they want while not realizing that many times the first puppy that comes to them might well be the dominant/fearless puppy that may not be a good fit in that particular home. Likewise a breeder would be reluctant to let a top show prospect go to a primarily pet home. Or would let a highly driven puppy go to a home that would not be prepared to work that puppy to its full potential.

A knowledgeable breeder will be able to stave off disappointment in a prospective buyer by pointing out the difference between pet vs show prospect in a buyer primarily looking for a show prospect....ensuring that the male has two descended testicals, ensuring that the bite is a strong scissor bite, eye color, mouth pigment, etc.......many small things that can well be the difference between a pet vs a show prospect.

I applaud your choice to look for a COE breeder however don't be too disappointed if that breeder does not allow you to pick your baby. I guess this is the reason that COE breeders ask more questions of their prospective homes to get a sense of that buyer's lifestyle to match the best pup with the best home!!

Best of luck in your search

Heather Peters

[brodster]

You're not looking for a pp dog but you want the dog to be not so accepting of strangers? How do you intend to train for this? You want the dog to be nervous and suspicious and yet not respond if a stranger does something the dog doesnt like or percieves as a threat to its pack?

You need to educate yourself more on this forum. With your attitude you're likely to end up with an adult that is unsociable and nervous around people (which increases the chances of an accidental bite). Scary.

[brunie's mom]

I think she just means more aloof with strangers. I have one that does not go and meet and greet everyone, and my other dog loves people...and has his nub wagging when he sees them.
A Rottweiler with the proper temperament is usually a bit more aloof...they like to wait and see.

Gina

[Luvman]

thanks to all for the helpful replies.



I'm not concerned about picking my pup I just want the right pup for us.

Originally Posted by brodster

You're not looking for a pp dog but you want the dog to be not so accepting of strangers? How do you intend to train for this? You want the dog to be nervous and suspicious and yet not respond if a stranger does something the dog doesnt like or percieves as a threat to its pack?

You need to educate yourself more on this forum. With your attitude you're likely to end up with an adult that is unsociable and nervous around people (which increases the chances of an accidental bite). Scary.

Brodster

I have educated myself on this forum and realize I have a lot yet to learn. this is my first post. notice when I first registered here.

our girl is "weak nerved" as I understand from my research here. she loves everyone and has never met a stranger. she has a very low protective drive.

when I say I want our next dog to not be so accepting of strangers I'd prefer a dog that's calm, cool, and collected when they meet someone new.

When Hannah meets a stranger her nub goes nuts and she wants to kiss and love on them almost like they're a member of the family she hasn't seen in a week. I'm sure if I hadn't taught her to not jump up on people she'd do that too.

I wouldn't mind having a pup that would make a good PP candidate. I just won't be training for it. after researching PP I realize it's a big responsibility that I'm not willing to take on at this point in my life. I'm in my early thirties and have a young family. from my research I've gathered that proper PP candidates have an even temper, not aggressive yet not aloof, with nerves of steel. and make a good addition to the family.

I hope I've explained myself better. I sometimes find it hard to get my point across with written words.


Karla,

thanks for the info. I looked up LKC and will try to attend.

Laddie

[bremner53]

I think most breeders are not going to allow you to just go out and pick your pup. They are the ones that know the breed best, and will suit the puppy to your family and your needs.

If there is no good reputable breeder near you, I would not hesitate to ship a pup. A good stable pup should be able to handle it with no problem.

May I ask what a COE breeder is?

[AngelBunny]

Originally Posted by bremner53

...May I ask what a COE breeder is?

Stands for code of ethics. Shorthand for a breeder who's doing things correctly.

Reading thru the postings here in Breeding will make clear what a COE breeder does.

The flip side of COE breeders are BYBs.

Just like reading thru the postings in Rescue make clear what they do

[TrinaJ]

In Australia we would either call Dogs Victoria or the Rottweiler CLub of Victoria for names of COE Breeders.

I would suggest you contact you equivalent (Rotty Club in your state/region and the American Canine Association - i think that's what you call it there???).

Definately do not go to your local newspaper, like posted above, most are BYB's - and BYB's will still charge you the same amount of coin as a COE Breeder. Even if you aren't going to be showing your dog, you want one with a good temprement, so definately do your research.

Lots of luck searching for the new addition to your family