Sickening just sickening-What newspaper ads from Puppy Mills look like

[jakesfostermom]

Originally Posted by rottcrazed

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, chances are, it is a duck ......

....and no matter what day of the week you encounter a duck - it's messy and frankly stinks!

This thread should go a LONG way to showing potential puppy buyers, how NOT to acquire their next pup. I think this is the most blatant 'in your face' BYB I've seen in a long time! and if there were any doubts on the information at hand, the association they make to Kimbertal seals the deal - anyone finding this 'operation' should RUN the opposite direction.

I wonder what happens to the pups/dogs she breeds that don't stay with the original owner?

[groupieindenial]

Their site talks nothing about their ethics of breeding, certifications, not even any show brags. Good breeders are open to share information, even "brag" about what their dogs have to offer. Regardless, what are YOU doing to bettter the breed? Nothing from what I can see, that alone does not make you an ethical breeder. Oversized Rotts are not improving the breed at all. You couldn't GIVE me one of your pups. I wonder how many of your pups end up in rescues? ANyone want to contact their local Rottie Rescue? Shelter?

[Gunsey'sMom]

Ms Wentling I am not going to say I know everything about your practices because all I know is what I have been presented with so maybe you could answer some questions so I could get some facts, but is this your main source of income? I am not trying to be rude, so please dont take this in the wrong tone. When did you start breeding and how did you get in to it? Do you breed other dogs besides Rottweilers? Do you have females and males on premises? Do you show or work any of your dogs?

[Valentine]

Can i ask something?

Can a pure bred pom be 14 pounds? Just curious.

[kathyg]

Originally Posted by Shelby427

Besides, she keeps saying her "layer" which I'm assuming she means LAWYER will handle the slander accordingly. Well I guess she's unaware that to prove slander, the slander must be false - which she can't prove is false because she posted it on her website. And due to her compulsive misspellings, I'm also assuming she's not that educated - so I doubt she has done as much "research" on how to better the breed as she claims. Also, she has yet to offer up any names of said "champions" for others to research. So Shelly, you are indeed a BYB and a puppy mill. So sad.

While I have no knowledge or affiliation with this breeder in PA., let's all stick to the facts here. Dehumanizing someone because of their frequent mis-spellings and consequently labeling them uneducated is irrevelent to their "breeding" program and simply ill-mannered. Quite frankly, I've never visted any site anywhere where I've seen more frequent mis-spellings, poor grammar, etc. than I have on this particular site. Again, I've never mentioned it until now, as it's not applicable to the topics being discussed.

While it certainly does seem that over 50 dogs is an inordinantly huge number to care for properly, at least keep to this specific subject at hand (not what educational level this woman has or has not reached) and simply take her up on her offer to visit the facility first hand. To tell you the truth, with so many millions of pets being physically abused, totally neglected & put to death each year in the U.S., this woman does seem, at least, to profess to have the best interest of the dogs in mind....perhaps less condemnation & more encouragement to downsize over time, become active in a local club, etc. might be in the best interest for everyone here -- eventually helping this woman (who at least appears communicative & respectful) to become better educated & helping her dogs to have more enriched & healthier lives. Remember...you attract more flies with honey than with vinegar. Let's all try to make suggestions and educate in a positive professional manner.

[Anton]

Originally Posted by Valentine

Can i ask something?

Can a pure bred pom be 14 pounds? Just curious.

Yes they can. Just like a Chihuahua can be 14 lbs. But they are NOT within standard, and should NOT be bred.

From the AKC web site for Poms:

The average weight of the Pomeranian is from 3 to 7 pounds, with the ideal weight for the show specimen being 4 to 6 pounds.

[rottcrazed]

Everything SUPER-sized ..... poms and rotts. Perfect!

Not good for either breed.

Kristi

[s1960]

Kennel Class IV

To keep or operate a private kennel, pet shop-kennel, research kennel, dealer kennel or breeding kennel for a cumulative total of 151 to 250 dogs of any age during a calendar year--$400 per year.

Kennel Class V

To keep or operate a private kennel, pet shop-kennel, research kennel, dealer kennel or breeding kennel for a cumulative total of 251 or more dogs of any age during a calendar year--$500 per year.

From Pennsylvania Dog Laws, Not sure why you'd brag about it.

[rottcrazed]

Let's all try to make suggestions and educate in a positive professional manner.

You can only educate those who are willing to listen.

Alas, when one knows everything there is to know on a subject, they tend to be a little closed minded.

Kristi

[Hannamia]

Can I make a suggestion to the breeder???

Lets say she is doing doing this for the betterment of the breed. She is doing everything right. I am not at her facility to actually see her establishment. So I am going to look at this another way.

A lot of people are going by what words are on your web site......Ms Wentling, I understand you are proud of what your daughter did to your web site as a present, but from she stated in a posting that was about apprimoximately 4 years ago. May I suggest updating your site to make it look more professional and state the facts that posted on here about your Rottweilers instead of the verbage that is on there already. We all love breed and want only what is best for them. Some of the information on the web site is incorrect according to AKC standards and is misleading.

The web site may ease the perception you claim you are not.

For the love of the breed
For my angel...........Mia.................

[lbraxton]

Wow! :eek

Perhaps we should all stick to the issue at hand and not bash her as a human being. One positive thing she has going for her is the fact that she has at least one satisfied customer and I'm sure there are many more. All of the negative comments will not stop her so why not try educating her by overloading her with breeding information?

Education is key.

[s1960]

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This is current and the website has a glowing testimonial from the March 07. This makes for a fun argument but you can't change this persons mind. OFA checked?? She know's how deceptive she's being.

[Valentine]

Because she knows it all!!!

Why stick up for a woman who claims to be the greatest kennel with 50+ dogs and only 15 or so helping hands? Does one REALLY have the time to socialize, train, and care for 50+ dogs? WHY would you even THINK of her as a reputable breeder if she is looking around for a FREE....F-R-E-E stud dog? Why stick up for a breeder who claims their main stud is a German Rottweiler when in fact, it is not? Why stick up for a breeder who cannot prove herself a good breeder by allowing us to check her stud and bitches' titles and OFA? (her excuse was "we had identity theft once so i can't give out the numbers") Lady, you can get identity theft by simply posting your dogs' picture on the World Wide Web!!!
Excuses, excuses, excuses!!!!

But before I get out of hand and rile up.....

I am going to send her information on how to properly breed dogs.
I can give her credit for taking care of the dogs on her land, but that isn't enough to call yourself a reputable breeder!!!

[Burnsway]

Originally Posted by Valentine

Can i ask something?

Can a pure bred pom be 14 pounds? Just curious.

I had one that lived till age 15 with AKC papers but I'm highly suspicious she came from a Pom mother bred with a miniature Spitz father and the papers were false. Great DOG minus the weak nerves..LOL.........Not a good rep for the breed though.....LOL!

As for the thread at hand....Im speechless. Fancy Puppy Miller at the most!

[my2boys]

This HAS to be a puppymill. If you were breeding to enhance the breed, you would NOT have the volume of dogs that you have.
You are not pulling the wool over the eyes of people on this site and shame on you for pulling the wool over unsuspecting buyers.
WHY do you need to have sooo many puppies???? If you were not a puppymill, you would NOT need so many. Plain and simple. You must be in it for the $$$.
You may love your dogs but you do not love or respect this breed because if you did, you would be breeding the best QUALITY dogs that you could - not the MOST dogs.
I'm sorry, but that is my opinion.