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| Re: Sickening just sickening I went to the website and cannot believe what I saw on there. They speak of a 180 lb dog, (I couldn't imagine one that size)One of the most incredulous things I saw was the way they teach their dogs not to get on furniture which is by using red hot sauce and hot chili pepper! Outrageous! Out of their ignorance, they've put all this info right out there on their website.
__________________ Buddy, our precious 2nd Rottie. Rommel, my first, very missed Rottie at the bridge, 13 yo. Mindy,"dingo dog" rescue waiting at the bridge, 16yo King, my wonderful GS, waiting at the bridge, 14 yo |
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| Re: Sickening just sickening Sorry, Shelly, but based on the information I've learned from this site, at best your kennel is a BYB and at worst it's a puppy mill. I went to a site where some of your puppies are for sale. You have puppies ranging in ages from 6 - 8 weeks old. When it comes to "champion bloodlines" or "champion sired" you or someone from your kennel answered "no." You say the father is ofa (which is a whole other debate), but no mention about the mother. I'm sorry, but to me you're not even close to being a COE breeder. When I was finally able to locate your website, a sentence on your homepage said it all for me as to what you are - "We have many puppies all the time." So does Kimbertal and they are the one breeder we're allowed to name in our posts on this site.
__________________ Working in an office is fine, but I’d rather be a millionaire. - Creed Bratton Last edited by hokisteph5; 04-23-2007 at 07:06 PM. |
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| Re: Sickening just sickening Sorry, someone with over 50 dogs is a puppy mill (but then, I think the only difference between most BYB's and a puppy mill is volume). These are DOGS, not cattle or sheep! Most of the ethical breeders I know have fewer than 10 dogs (and then not all of breeding age), because that's about as many as you can have if you want to actually, you know, train and show and work and spend time with them...all those things that ethical people choose to do with their dogs.
__________________ Amanda ---------- "Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx |
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| Re: Sickening just sickening I have checked out the website and an not altogether happy with it, i certainly would not buy a pup from there. 'She has had many liters in the past few years. Lila put out very adorable BIG puppies. Unfortunitly she can no longer have puppies. We had to retire her and sale her to a good home' You sold your dog because she was no longer profitable? and a bitch should not have had many litters - do you have any idea how harmful overbreeding is to the dog? 'We Have many puppies all the time' How on earth can you possibly give each pup the time and care he deserves? 'She puts out LARGE pups as well' hardly a proffessional or caring termanology used here This was just a few of many.... |
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| Re: Sickening just sickening Yes this is sad! I didn't see the web site BUT I can see RESCUE/DOG SHELTERS in that area when the cute babies start growing up! AND this has been going on for HOW many years????? These folks can't be stopped. GREEDY and RUINING the ROTTWEILER
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| Re: Sickening just sickening Ms Wentling: Hey, after searching, you are in Westmoreland county which is just a spit distance away from myself. Why I might just take you up on your offer and get a look at these dogs myself. |
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| Re: Sickening just sickening YUP go make a visit to the lady's kennel. I would love to hear the GOOD report.
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ALL MY ROTTIES ARE AKC, OFA, AND SHOW QUALITY BACKGROUND,ELBOWS AND DNA, ECT..WE DO NOT SELL OUR ROTTIES TO JUST ANYONE I CHECK EVERYONES BACKGROUND AND INTERVIEW MORE THAT ONCE. MY ROTTIES GO TO FAMILY HOMES AND I KEEP INTOUCH WITH EVERYONE THAT HAS ONE OF MY PUPS AND THEY ARE VERY MUCH AWARE OF THE SLANDERING THAT YOU AREDOING TO MY KENNELS... TAMIE K YOU SAID YOU HOPE YOU DON'T GET IN TROUBLE FOR THE SLANDERING, WELL I HAVE CONTACTED MY LAYER AND WE KNOW YOUR HOME ADDRESS AND YOU WILL BE HANDLED ACCORDINGLY... THIS SLANDERING WILL STOP... WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH. AND SO HAVE MY CLIENTS...THEY ALSO WILL BE CONTACTING YOU AGAINEST YOUR SLANDERING... JUST SO YOU KNOW I HAVE TURNED A FEW PEOPLE IN MY SELF FOR PUPPY MILLING...I AM WELL AWARE OF PUPPY MILLS. SO FOR THE FUTURE LOOK OUT FOR US IN THE DOG SHOWS... THEY WILL BE CHAMPIONS...ONCE AGAIN TAMIE COME SEE OUR KENNELS BEFORE YOU SLANDER THEM...I TOLD YOU BEFORE YOUR NOT FAR FROM ME COME AND SEE FOR YOUSELF BEFORE PASSING JUDGEMENT... I WELCOME ANYONE TO COME SEE FOR YOURSELF ![]() |
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| FIRST OFF THAT WAS NOT MY ADD I NEVER GIVE ROTTIES AWAY, THATS SOME OTHER BREEDER THAT STOLD MY IDENTILY AND SHE IS VERY SORRY THAT SHE HAS DONE THAT BUT SHE'S ALSO HANDLE ACCORDINGLY BY MY LAYWER... I WELCOME YOU TO COME SEE MY KENNELS. |
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I'M VERY SICK TO DEATH OF THIS SLANDERING...IT WILL STOP..I HOPE YOU HAVE LOTS OF MONEY CAUSE MY LAWYER WILL HANDLE ALL OF YOU ACCORDINGLY, MY LAWYER IS VERY SEW HAPPY... |
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ZORRO13 WE HAVE TRIED VERY HARD TO KEEP A GOOD KENNEL AND ALL OF THIS IS VERY UPSETTING. THIS IS WHY IF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TALK THAT SOMEONE SHOULD COME TAKE THE TIME TO FIND OUT THE TRUTH. EACH AND EVERY PERSON HAS THERE OWN IDEA OF WHATS RIGHT AND WRONG. WE HAVE GAINED THE RIGHT OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH BUT THAT FREEDOM ENDS WHEN SOME UNKNOWINLY BAD MOUTHS THINGS THEY HAVE NEVER SEEN. SOMEONE USED OUR NAME FOR THE FALSE ADD AND I WOULD LOVE TO FIND OUT WHO AND WHY. IF IT WAS SOMEONE WHOS UPSET WITH US I WISH THEY WOULD JUST CONTACT US SO WE CAN SOLVE IT. EVERYONE IS FEEDING IN TO THIS WITHOUT ANY HONEST PROOF. MY WEB SITE WAS DESIGNED BY MY DAUGHTER THAT WAS 15 FOR A PRESENT TO ME WE ARE WORKING ON MAKING IT MORE PERSONAL AND MORE OF WHAT EACH OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE. WE ARE ALWAYS OPEN FOR SUGGESTIONS THAT HAVE PROOF TO WHY WE SHOULD TRY IT. I HAVE HAD THE ROTTIS FOR 15 YEARS. THERE ARE ALWAYS REASON A PERSON DOES THINGS AND WE EVEN HAVE OUR REASON FOR RAISING THIS BREED OF DOG AND NO IT IS NOT FOR THE MONEY! ITS THE LOVE OF THE BREED AND IT IF THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE SAFED ME AND MY FAMILY AND I WANT TO PROVIDE THAT FRO OTHER FAMILYS. I PERSONAL HAVE MY DOGS OFA 'D AND DNA 'D I HAVE A VERY GOOD VET THAT ANSWERS WHEN NEEDED. WE HAVE A CERTIFIED VET TECH THAT COMES HERE ON A REGUALER BASIS TO GO OVER PUPPIES AND THE ADULTS. WHAT MORE CAN WE DO? I AM SURE THERE IS ALWAYS SOMEONE WHO DOES IT BETTER AND I AM SURE THERE WILL BE SOMEONE WHO SOES IT WORSE. BUT PLEASE DON'T PASS JUDGMENT ON US OR ANYONE ELSE INLESS YOU HAVE SEEN FOR YOURSELF AND CAN BACK THINGS UP EVERONE HAS FRIENDS AND EVERYONE HAS THOSE WHO DON'T TREAT US RIGHT. I HAVE OFFERED FOR YOU TO COME MEET ARE DOGS AND TALK PAPERS, HEALTH , TRAINNING AND ANY OTHER THINGS ONE ON ONE. I WILL NOT POST MY FAMILY TREE FOR ALL TO SEE. SOMEONE ALREADY USED MY NAME TO GET THIS ALL GOING WHY WOULD I RISK THAT OF MY DOGS AS WELL? THANK EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU FOR YOUR TIME. PLEASE EMAIL ME PRIVITLY WITH ANY QUESTIONS OF COMMENTS. FEEL FREE TO MAKE A DAY TO COME MEET OUR DOGS. TILL THEN, HAVE A NICE DAY, SHELLY Last edited by Vista; 04-24-2007 at 11:09 AM. Reason: remove email |
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| Re: Sickening just sickening I just visited the "breeder's" webpage. Is it just me, or does their deceased top male look to have entropion? :( I always thought that was something that shouldn't be perpetuated. Additionally, I can't say that if I was just perusing Rottweiler breeder webpages that I would be terribly impressed with the bright colors, mis-spelled words, and internet slang. I've never been around two dogs "tied up", but do you really have to hold the female for 30 minutes so they can mate?!
__________________ Monica & the Fur: Woof: Kiera, Nat, Zellie (CGC) & Clyde (CGC, TDInc.) Meow: Lucky, Shelby, Reilly, A'Bu, Graycen & Macho Dook: Emilie |
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| Re: Sickening just sickening Do you think our resident puppy miller stopped posting because she realized she "bit off more then she could chew"? Hard to fool people who confuse her with facts. On a more scary thought, these pups that she is producing in mass quanity can't possibly be properly socialized nor I'm sure bred for good temperament. Do you think the local and state govenments would take a look at these puppy millers and realize that half the bite problems could be solved by putting these types of "businesses" out of business? It's places and people like this that just fuel BSL to the next level. ![]()
__________________ JoJo All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke |
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