red rottweilers

[imstillafloaaat]

This question's for the breeders primarily. I've read that red rottweilers can occur in litters accidentally. How often does that happen to a so-called reputable breeder? I imagine its rare if its a result of inbreeding as I've read. What do they do to the red pups? Sell them as pets contracted to be fixed (which I'm not against at all)? Or do they, I guess the word is, cull them? My main question is where would I find one from a reputable breeder who just so happened to produce one in a litter of otherwise "normal" puppies? I'm not looking for some shady character trying to make a profit from these "rare" rotties. I'm just offering a home to one that is looking for one. I doubt rep. breeders advertise this sort of "abnormal" animal. I am aware of rescues (I work at the local pound myself). But rescues and pound dogs aren't the only ones looking for homes. There's that part where the owner should to try to place the dog before surrendering it to these organizations.

Being that this is my first post, I guess I should introduce myself quickly. I'll be a sophomore in college. I'm trying to switch from the Mathematics major to the Bio- Pre-Vet track (you can guess why). I'm hoping to get into the vet school in VA. I have a female rotty (could be mixed- if u want the details just ask) named Angel. I've had her since she was an 8 wk old pup, and she recently turned 7 yrs old. We did agility in 4-H for 4 years, and now she's a bonafide therapy dog :D i have to mention my other baby Balto, the 4-mo. old silver and white ferret. Toots the nutty year old shep x rescue and Ed the parakeet (whose gender is questionable) are my sister's.

Halle & Angel

[Judi W]

I personally believe that although it might be a couple of generations back, the red is from contamination and not from pure stock. Black has been the color for hundreds of years and red doesn't just crop up after that time period. All a disreputable person would need to do is keep one generation out of sight and breed from that.

PS, of all the "reds" that have been DNA check to the direct so-called parents, only one came back as claimed. The rest could not pass DNA. I think the one that did pass had something else one generation back.

[Chellen]

Originally Posted by imstillafloaaat

This question's for the breeders primarily. I've read that red rottweilers can occur in litters accidentally. How often does that happen to a so-called reputable breeder? I imagine its rare if its a result of inbreeding as I've read. What do they do to the red pups? Sell them as pets contracted to be fixed (which I'm not against at all)? Or do they, I guess the word is, cull them? My main question is where would I find one from a reputable breeder who just so happened to produce one in a litter of otherwise "normal" puppies? I'm not looking for some shady character trying to make a profit from these "rare" rotties. I'm just offering a home to one that is looking for one. I doubt rep. breeders advertise this sort of "abnormal" animal. I am aware of rescues (I work at the local pound myself). But rescues and pound dogs aren't the only ones looking for homes. There's that part where the owner should to try to place the dog before surrendering it to these organizations.

Halle & Angel

I have never heard of a reputable breeder that EVER got a "red" Rottweiler in a pure breeding - every litter of red rotts has been able to be tracked back to impure breeding and then inbreeding to set the red.

Sorry, red is not an accident.

Michelle

[BostonRott]

Yep, agreed. Long coats are not uncommon, as they are a recessive gene found in the breed. But reds are usually from mixed stock.

[imstillafloaaat]

alrighty, thanks guys. i've heard of the longhaired rotties as well. apply the same question to these guys- what do the breeders do to the longhaired ones? adopt them out as pets like any other "pet" quality dog?

Halle & Angel

[observer]

All it would take is a red Dobie in the mix somewhere.

[RottiMomCT]

Originally Posted by imstillafloaaat

alrighty, thanks guys. i've heard of the longhaired rotties as well. apply the same question to these guys- what do the breeders do to the longhaired ones? adopt them out as pets like any other "pet" quality dog?

Halle & Angel

I pulled a long haired rottie out of a shelter for rescue - he was sold to an unsuspecting buyer by a so called breeder for a huge chunk of $$ because he was labeled as 'rare'...well, yah, it is rare, but he's not a new breed of rottie, just a genetic kink in the chain. Other than his long coat, he's a rottie...just ask DeniseL - she adopted him!!

Cyrus is a rottie thru and thru. I think his long coat makes him 100% more approachable - he looks like a newfie/rott mix...

I have asked a few breeders what they would do with a long haired pup and they all said the dog would be sold or adopted to a pet home, and spayed/neutered as part of the contract.

[Chellen]

Originally Posted by imstillafloaaat

alrighty, thanks guys. i've heard of the longhaired rotties as well. apply the same question to these guys- what do the breeders do to the longhaired ones? adopt them out as pets like any other "pet" quality dog?

Halle & Angel

Yup, that is what ethical breeders do - they are just like any other dog born with a DQing fault. Sold as a pet on a spay/neuter contract.
Longhaired Rotts really are quite cute!

Michelle

[Judi W]

May I ask why you have such an interest in dogs with such visible dQ faults?

[observer]

It's not the DOG'S fault his hair is long, or red. If it's a typical Rottie in all other respects, and you love the dog, and you rescued it or adopted it or whatever and are not going to breed it, what's the problem with having that dog, and loving it, and saying nice things about it?

[BostonRott]

There are quite a few breeders who also put such puppies down. I have a coated boy in my B litter, he is very happily living up on the MA/NH border, neutered.

[HUGGYBEAR]

Why would you WANT a red rottie? It is different if you were trying to adopt a discard, but you want one straight from the gait. Like the lime light while walking your dog?

[Bucky's Mom]

Originally Posted by HUGGYBEAR

. Like the lime light while walking your dog?

MAYBE the OP is looking for a well bred dog that a breeder needs a good home for with a DQ fault

I think presumming otherwise is a bit extreme

[Judi W]

Originally Posted by Bucky's Mom

MAYBE the OP is looking for a well bred dog that a breeder needs a good home for with a DQ fault
............

Perhaps, but there are plenty of those with an off bite, white spot, less than best conformation........ and much more likely to be found.

[HUGGYBEAR]

Thanks Judi; you saved me some words......thats what I meant Bucky's Mom I meant why would you go looking for a specific dog to adopt? (other than temperment wise and size) It just hit my mind as she has seen one before and is seeking to adopt one Not only to be adopting a dog in need; but to also get a great conversation piece if you will. Not saying that she DOES have an ulterior motive; It just struck me that way.