What IS happening to our ethics?

[Sak2]

Condensed Story- I purchased a puppy from a Canadian breeder among the problems my dog has,entrophin and failed on his OFA testing(hips), and despite the fact we have a contract the breeder she is claiming to none of her responsibilities.

The litermate sister has also failed her hip x rays( no OFA #) but the breeder Is deciding to breed her any ways.

Is this un allowed by the CKC or RCC ( since she is a member) or are we allowed to breed registered dogs mind the health issues?

[Judi W]

Not being Canadian myself, but general principles.......

In truth with the databases available more breeders are forced to do a better job because the research is so easy to do. If this breeder belongs to any code club, charges could be expected to be filed if breeding a bitch that is not cleared. The same applies if a written guarantee is not upheld.

Now if she does not belong to any code club (I don't know if the RCC has mandatory standards or not) then there would be no engine for enforcement. Also charges can only be preferred to a member of the same club.

Canada is a pretty small community, so I would think this person already has a reputation for the practices she does. I imagine that Canada has something similar to small claims court and it wouldn't hurt to file charges there.

[Ann Felske-Jackman]

The Rottweiler Club of Canada does have a code of ethics (see their website at www.rottclub.ca), as does the CKC. Your best bet would be to review them to see whether your breeder has violated them and, if so, to file a formal complaint. Each organization then has a committee which decides whether their COE was violated and, in the case that it was, assigns disciplinary action.

[Sharon Marples]

I'm so sorry for your situation. Both Judi and Ann answered your question.

Does your contract allow you any recourse in court? Maybe if the breeder is taken to court she might discontinue these unethical practices? Worth a try.

Again, I am sorry. I would suggest that your put your boy on one of the joint medications to keep him lubricated as much as possible and to allow him freedom of movement without pain for as long as possible.

[TrishB]

I think what happens is that a lot of people simply do not complain. Those of us who hold ourselves to a higher standard, seem to be the victims of those who don't. If we have experienced a wrong - we need to uphold that standard and lodge a formal complaint.

I'm sorry to hear about your boy - I hope you're able to keep him comfortable.

[rottcrazed]

You do need to take it up with the RCC first as they are likely to do something before the CKC will.

Chances are that if this breeder is willing to breed a dog without her hips certified now, means she has likely done it before and will likely do it again.

There are plenty of breeders like this out there, and unless we speak up, nothing will ever be done.

The COE of the RCC is pretty strict, if they know this is happening, but unless a breeder advertises on the site a breeding/litter announcement, the RCC won't know what an individual breeder is doing. My guess this is a breeder who hasn't advertised her breedings.

I mean we can all be nit-picky about what everyone else is doing and call it 'gossip' and 'rumor-spreading', but if you the facts and some proof, CALL THE BREEDER ON IT. Tell the RCC and leave the ball in her court to bare the burden of proof when asked where all her dogs health certs are.

You will be doing this breed a world of good.

As for your contract, you have to be sure of the wording as sometimes it can look good until you really read it and find that the breeder has left a door open in it for her to walk out if something happens to the dog. If you have a friend in the legal field, have them look it over and see what they think.

Kristi

[Judi W]

This only applies if the "breeder" is a member of the club.

[rottcrazed]

I think he mentioned above she was, otherwise, you are right, there is nothing we can do about it.

Kristi

[Alison]

Originally Posted by Sak2

Condensed Story- I purchased a puppy from a Canadian breeder among the problems my dog has,entrophin and failed on his OFA testing(hips), and despite the fact we have a contract the breeder she is claiming to none of her responsibilities.

The litermate sister has also failed her hip x rays( no OFA #) but the breeder Is deciding to breed her any ways.

Is this un allowed by the CKC or RCC ( since she is a member) or are we allowed to breed registered dogs mind the health issues?

If this breeder is a memeber of the RCC and alredy has done this breeding and you no for shere that the hips are bad on the bitch then you can go after them but if they stated that they are going to breed the dog and have not there is nothing that you can do about it

We also do not no the contract that you have with this breeder and how it is worded so we cant not judge if anthing was done wrong
but from the one sentance that is not here say on this what i see is how unethical your problam was delt with
what you can do if this breeder breched there contract with you and is a memeber of the Rcc is lay a complant agenst them