What should I expect to pay

[toobad]

I'm looking into the purchase of a pup. Could someone help me out on pricing ? Is a show type dog worth more than a working type dog ? Is a pup worth more if the parents are both imported ? How much of a guarantee should I " EXPECT ". When I do purchase , are the " rights " to the dog mine and only mine or do I have to expect stipulations in case of him fathering a litter ? Any comments appreciated.

[JoJo]

do I have to expect stipulations in case of him fathering a litter ?

Don't quite understand that statement. Are you planning on purchasing a dog for breeding or is that in case the dog gets loose and it breeds? Either way, if you purchase a dog from an COE breeder, most likely they will want the dog to be neutered if you do not plan on showing.

JoJo

[Rott-Wiley]

The answer to your other questions should be in the contract that the breeder and you both agree (and sign) on.

I'm also confused by your asking about a show type dog or working type? I wasn't aware there was a difference, a good dog should be able to be shown as well as do work.

Also, I don't think being imported has anything to do with anything. When you purchase a pure bread dog from "titled" parents, that is more of what you are paying for. The fact that those dogs have proven themselves, not where they are from.

[AngelBunny]

Originally Posted by toobad

Any comments appreciated.

I'm gonna put in a plug for adopting a Rottie from a bona fide rescue group.

My first Rottie (in 1984) came from a BYB; I've bought puppies from COE breeders, and the girl I'm currently training and showing is a rescue girl we adopted after fostering the spitfire.

Even if you do decide to go the breeder route after researching rescue, toobad, you'll know about rescue. It's always better to operate from a position of more information than less.

[Patty1231]

Toobad - congratulations for finding this forum BEFORE you purchased a pup. Please do a search on all the questions you have asked in your post - and I'm sure you have a lot more, at least you will after you research more information. There is so much involved in finding an ethical breeder and knowing what you want before you get it. With so many questions, please do not even consider buying a dog for breeding purposes because there is so much involved in doing this responsibly that I would guess you have about another 10-15 years of experience to gather before you should even think about that I know, I thought about it too when I purchased Rocco and quickly learned I had no business getting involved in that. Rotties require a lot of time, effort, and training but are more than worth the investment, both of time and money. Happy researching!! Please keep us up to date.

[toobad]

Thanks for the replies so far.

What I meant about working type or show type is ... Some dogs pedigree there parents were champions in show. Others have parents that were champions and titles in example shutzhund. SO, it would seem that there is a difference in pups who come from a strong show or strong working background.

As far a breeding. I am not interested in breeding at this time and not any time in the near future BUT you never know what the future holds. I would never breed with just any dog for the sake of having puppies.

As for the rescue dogs - I have two and I love them both dearly. I have a thread in the vets forum . My boy " Tiny " is dying from cancer. My female has never been alone and she needs a companion.

As for the pups - I understand that no dog is immune to dying or being sick but I also believe that buying a puppy with a strong background will give him a better chance of being healthy, having a good temperment, etc.

Thanks again to all who have replied. I didn't really get the answers I was looking for it was more like answering my question with more questions but I thank those of you who took the time to reply. I'll keep checking back.

[sherri]

I think that the old saying you get what you pay for has some merit here, but can also get you taken advantage of. You can pick up a quality show/working prospect puppy from a reputable breeder for as little as 1,000 dollars and another litter that I checked on puppies were going for 5,500 dollars. BE CAREFUL, that litter was sired by a dog with ED. Do your research, find what you want, but also realise that just because you want it doesn't mean that you should get taken. Good Luck!!

[fbkeays]

Originally Posted by toobad

I'm looking into the purchase of a pup. Could someone help me out on pricing ? Is a show type dog worth more than a working type dog ? Is a pup worth more if the parents are both imported ? How much of a guarantee should I " EXPECT ". When I do purchase , are the " rights " to the dog mine and only mine or do I have to expect stipulations in case of him fathering a litter ? Any comments appreciated.

The very first thing you have to decide is what you are going to do with the dog. Is it mainly for conformation or do you want to do SchH or agility, obedience, tracking, etc.
If you are not interested in conformation showing, a dog that has a minor cosmetic flaw to DQ flaw will be priced differently then what is termmed, "Show potential". Breeders with a strong working background may price the higher drive, more biddable dog higher then the dog with less drive.
There are so many variables, that it is as indivual as the breeder. Prices are as different too. You can get a good quality dog for every where from free to several thousands of dollars. It is very much of buyer beware.

[RAVENMOM]

Originally Posted by toobad

Thanks for the replies so far.

What I meant about working type or show type is ... Some dogs pedigree there parents were champions in show. Others have parents that were champions and titles in example shutzhund. SO, it would seem that there is a difference in pups who come from a strong show or strong working background.

Ideally, the parents are not strictly one or the other. In the best of worlds parents should be titled at both ends. In other words, a CH in front and a working title(s) (SCH, Obed. Agil...etc) at the other end. Sometimes the sire and Dam are working towards titles the do not yet have, too. You can ask.

However, in the real world, there are some more predominantly one or the other. Thi price would be similar, in either case.

[toobad]

Okay , thanks for the answers. These past couple of replies are what I wanted to hear. Thanks again

[Carol Burke]

Once you determine what you want to do with the dog then do some research. If you want a SchH dog then you need to look at strong working pedigrees, confirmation you want titled parents hopefully with working titles also. The contract you get from the breeder will spell out any claims they might want later down the road. Sometimes a breeder selling a male or bitch that they feel is showable may want a stud service or a puppy at a later date. All of this needs to be in your contract. You also want to be sure to see health clearances on the parents. Price can be all over the place. I sold my last litter for $1500 each. CH parents, working titles on the dam, health clearences on the parents and grandparents.

[laurlitt]

Originally Posted by Rott-Wiley

I'm also confused by your asking about a show type dog or working type? I wasn't aware there was a difference, a good dog should be able to be shown as well as do work.

It depends on what you mean by 'work'. IMO ANY well tempered & well bred Rottweiler should be able to go out and get a CGC, TDI, TT, CD, etc. and \
you should expect nothing less from a COE breeder who produces show quality dogs... It should go without saying that the rottweiler is a smart dog and with the right socializing, a bit of training, etc... these things can be easily accomplished.

However, again IMO, the genetics required for a 'working' dog (schutzhund, herding, agility, SAR, etc.) don't just happen by breeding two 'good' dogs together. When I"m looking for a 'working' rottweiler I would not consider a breeding of two dogs with lots of OB titles in their pedigreee, I would look for Sch, herding (not just Herding Instinct), and even agility titles.

Don't get me wrong, I think OB is a great avenue to work the dogs, but I don't think a Rottweiler titled in OB proves (in most cases) to have strong working genetics... but more a stable temperment... If I was wanting a competition OB dog I would still go to a breeding with strong sch, herding, etc. titles (not OB).

Think about humans... just because a baby is gorgeous, it doesn't mean they will be smart.

Sorry for being off topic a bit, but I wanted to respond to that comment...

As for the original post, I would expect that the cost for a show and work puppy to be about the same (both typically more than the pet quality puppies).