Hip ratings

[Scott Fishfader]

Please explain to me why her dog needs to get an OFA when she is HD- Frei.
Which means she is free hip of dysplasia .

[Goniella]

Her dog doesn't HAVE to be OFA'D but it should have been it is common practice that when you import a dog whether its hips are cleared in its country or not, you get its OFA so that it also clear in the by the country in which it will be bred! The main problem here is she has only had the dog a few months, she doesn't even know how to spell the dog's registration name nor does she know ANYTHING about breeding....... I mean seriously look at one of her first threads here on this board about health guarentees and how she doesn't know anything about contracts.. but yet she is about the have a future generation of rottweilers that she as the breeder will need to protect and she knows NOTHING about contracts.... this person should have done ALOT more research before she started breeding, especially an 8 year old dog, afterall age adds chances of complications, and she doesn't know what she is doing.

[Judi W]

No "have to" unless the breeder is a member of a code club. Code clubs give a 6 month's grace period for dogs certified as HD free in their country of origin, after which it is required that an OFA certification be done if there is going to be any breeding. Of course, if one is not a member of a code club, there are no "have to's" at all.

[Scott Fishfader]

Please show me where it is written
in a code club that a dog who hips
are certified or HD- Frei from a FCI
member that they need to be recertified
if the dog goes to another country,

[Goniella]

here ya go Scott

Breed only AKC registered dogs and bitches which have OFA certified hips (or HD-free hips as certified by foreign counterparts of the OFA). Imported Rottweilers must have OFA hip certification within six months after arrival in U.S.A. If semen is used from an imported Rottweiler, the dog must be x-rayed and certified by the OFA or foreign counterpart at no less than 24 months of age. Breed only dogs and bitches of stable temperament with no disqualifying physical faults according to the AKC Rottweiler Standard (i.e. entropion, ectropion, overshot, undershot, wry mouth, two or more missing teeth, unilateral cryptorchid or cryptorchid males, long coat, any base color other than black, absence of all markings.)

#2 in the ARC Code of Ethics (American Rottweiler Club) IE: the parent club here in the United States. Which is located here

ARC Mandatory Practices

[Judi W]

FCI denotes uniformity of the standard of judging. It does not in any way indicate uniformity of the health clearance requirements which can change from country to country. Some countries will look at the hips at 12 months of age and never review them again. In the US, policy is not to certify until the dog is 24 months of age or older when the skeletal system is pretty much fully developed.

[Scott Fishfader]

Interesting,
Why Does ARC allow a missing tooth?
And where in the ARC breed qualifications
does it shows elbows?
Also I am interested to know which country allows hips certs @ 12 months?
Does ARC have certified people who can
give the dogs a temperment test?

[Judi W]

At one time, the AKC standard allowed 4 missing teeth!!!! Now just one, but I will tell you that it is very hard for a dog or bitch to do anything even with the one missing allowed. AKC was quite reluctant on the teeth business.

I'd have to go through some international records from the IFR conferences to check on age requirements. If I get an opportunity, I will do so. Most countries that have breeding standards want the standards of their country followed so even though those here are enforced to code club members and not the entire populace, that does not mean they are abandoned because a dog is an import.

The code is MINIMUM requirements. Recommended by ARC and applied to the CHIC certification are hips, elbows, eyes and heart certification.

[lblax]

Originally posted by Scott Fishfader
Interesting,
Also I am interested to know which country allows hips certs @ 12 months?
?

i believe an A stamp can be given at 1 year which comes from germany

[Judi W]

That is one I was thinking of. They had upped it to 18 months at one time and then backed it down again.

[Scott Fishfader]

IBLAX In Germany it is 18 month.( has been that way for almost two decades.
Our Girl Inge vom Schwiager Rathaus
who is OFA Cert Good Here & Elbows Clear Had her hips & elbows cert in Germany. Which are HD- ED-

[lblax]

Originally posted by Scott Fishfader
IBLAX In Germany it is 18 month.( has been that way for almost two decades.
Our Girl Inge vom Schwiager Rathaus
who is OFA Cert Good Here & Elbows Clear Had her hips & elbows cert in Germany. Which are HD- ED-

SV hip certificate ("a" stamp)

The dog must be at least 12 month old, and only an SV certified veterinarian can take a hip x-ray and must certify the dog’s tattoo number in the space provided on the dog’s pedigree (Ahnentafel), which the dog owner must surrender to the veterinarian before the x-ray can be taken. This process cannot be repeated. The dog’s x-ray and registration certificate must then be forwarded to the SV for evaluation. If the dog has severe hip dysplasia, the SV will permanently disqualify this dog from breeding and will publish the dogs name, parents, line breeding, owner, and breeder in the SV magazine.

[Judi W]

What I had been told was that they did not feel they had seen adequate improvement in the incidence of HD at the 18 month level and so, instead of tightening up the qualifications, they lowered them with the idea being that it made no difference. Interesting concept.

[damp]

Originally posted by Scott Fishfader
Interesting,

Also I am interested to know which country allows hips certs @ 12 months?

The minimum age for hips/elbows certifications is 12 months here.

[samanthac]

USRC or ARV will accept hip ratings from country of origin. They do not require an OFA if the dog already has hips rated elsehwere. Only if you want to show in AKC, which most people with seiger/shutzhund dogs don't anyway, do you have to get an OFA on top of other hip cert.

Which quite frankly is just plain stupid to me. A hip rating, done either here or abroad, is a hip rating.