curious about breeding

[Rockwilda]

just wondeing ... my girl scheizer is only 7 months almost 8 ...i have never had a feamle who wasnt spayed...what do i have to look forward to mess wise and about the cancer is it really less chance of getting cancer if you spay ..i do intend on breeding my girl ...but not for financial gain ..i just want more rottens and alot of good friends of mine would like a rottie as well...of course i will ot breed her without learning a lot more about breeding ...( does it change a dogs disposition after they have pups ) and stuff like that i have alot to learn and these forums aare greeeeeeeaatt any ideas and comments are appreciated

[LavenderRott]

Before breeding you need to have her OFA certified, her elbows checked, her heart checked, her eyes checked and I think there are a couple of other things that responsible breeders have checked to insure that the puppies are going to be healthy and not have congenital problems. There are any number of things that could go wrong during delivery.

Yes, spaying her will dramatically reduce her chances of getting of getting many types of reproductive cancers.

If your friends are interested in a rottweiler, please direct them to you local shelter, rescue group, or petfinder.com. There are literally thousands of homeless rottweilers.

[Birdie'sMom]

My suggestion - to avoid becoming another Back Yard Breeder, which this breed does NOT need - spay your girl, learn what it takes to be an ethical breeder, and then sometime in the future when you know everything there is to know about becoming an ethical and responsible breeder, then maybe look into getting a dog that will be worthy to pass on their genes.

If you do go against this advice - do you plan on taking any one of the pups from your litter back at any time during it's life if the owner wants to give it back? Even if the entire litter comes back to you?

[BigNewbie]

this reminds me of the person who thought/thinks Kimbertal Kennel wasn't bad.

[moondog]

Breeding is not something to consider lightly. Take a trip through these two virtual breeding links:

http://www.geocities.com/bluegracepwd/vb1.html
http://www.bluegrace.com/vb_2.html

Hopefully in the end you'll understand why we have such concern. :)

[Sharon Marples]

Rockwilda,
Where do you live? In the US or another country? Just thinking this is why you will find us so questioning about your wanting to breed your girl for the reasons you stated. If you are in another country, that may explain your reasons.

[Rockwilda]

i am in calgary alberta canada... we do not have any strictly rottweiler rescue around here that i know of...( let me know if anyone knows of one ) ...and i am definetely not wanting to become a back yard breeder ..its just that if i spay my dog there is no going back ...but then if i dont she is at a higher risk of cancer :(

[LavenderRott]

My best, unbiased advice would be to spay. I looked on petfinder today and there are just shy of 3000 rottweilers looking for new homes. unfortunately, there is no going back for them either.

[lblax]

Originally posted by Rockwilda
..i just want more rottens and alot of good friends of mine would like a rottie as well

there are many rotts looking for good homes and i would suggest that would be the route your friends take... if you want to breed your dog be a responsible breeder -resurch her lines and do a thourough check of genetic and temparmant flaws make sure her ancesters are proven titled dogs then work your but off and get either show and or working titles on her befor she is 2 yrs old after you title her at the age of 2 have her hip, elbows,heart,eyes ofa certified then you can start looking for a titled stud whos lines you have studied and found no genetic flaws and one that has been ofa'd for hips elbowas heart and eyes once all this is accomplished maske sure you can keep and care for any pups that are brought back to you or may have genetic defects. to be a responsible breeder it takes years of working and studying the aspects of breeding i am sure your dog is a fine animal but to just breed 2 nice dogs actually hurts the breed and waters down the overall working capabilities of the breed

[Mojave's Mom]

Very well put and definetely words of wisdom that should be heeded to.

[Rockwilda]

yea thank you all for the good advice.. my dogs pedigree is definetely far above average ..but i am still not sure on what i will do ... i dont even have breeding rights for her yet ...and wont be given them without proving her and myself ..i bought her from a very highly regarded breeder ...i am actually leaning towards spaying her ...i just hope i dont deeply regret it later ...but i am not sure of what to do yet i have some time to talk to alot of people ..get advice and what not ...but once again thanks everyone for your advice and opinions

[Carina43]

Many of us have dogs with excellent pedigrees and parents who are titled in working & conformation (I do), and who are certified free of all the common genetic conditions - yet we still won't allow the dog to produce puppies. Lineage doesn't mean a particular dog is worthy of being bred anyhow - just having a fancy pedigree isn't a guarantee she is free of heritable faults.

I hope you spay her; the Rottweiler overpopulation in both the US & Canada is horrendous; thousands are killed every week. Why add to that? Even if every puppy she has gets taken into a wonderful home where it's loved and cherished until a natural death, (unlikely) that's denying 8-12 other wonderful dogs a home. Someone just emailed me a horrendous photo of a pile of dead dogs dumped at a landfill - the day's kill at a shelter in Dallas. It included 6 Rottweilers. That's one day in one shelter; and there are thousands of shelters here. :(

You're young & have lots of time! :) Here's my advice: Spay Scheizer. Train her. Get her titled in obedience, tracking, herding, Schutzhund, agility, whatever seems appropriate for her. Learn lots - I learn something new from every dog I own; and I'm more than twice your age. :p Schatzie can be your teacher! Learn how to REALLY understand bloodlines and Rottweilers and genetics and the whole process.

THEN when you really know what goes into proper breeding (and I admit I don't, I've never allowed any dog of mine to produce) you can be really informed & can find a dog who is really worthy.

If you can post her pedigree, I bet a couple of the knowlegable breeders here can chime in with feedback. :)

PS: I just Googled "Alberta Canada Rottweiler Rescue" and came up with about a zillion hits...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...=Google+Search

[RottiMomCT]

Originally posted by Rockwilda
yea thank you all for the good advice.. my dogs pedigree is definetely far above average ..but i am still not sure on what i will do ... i dont even have breeding rights for her yet ...and wont be given them without proving her and myself ..i bought her from a very highly regarded breeder ...

Was she sold on a PET contract, SHOW contract or BREEDING contract?? If she was sold to you as a pet quality (but still very well bred dog) you cannot breed her, no matter how many of your friends want a rottie. Do a search and you will see how many rotties there are already looking for homes - young ones, old ones, PUPPIES, all ages....why add to that number simply because you know people looking for dogs. Why not refer them to the breeder you bought your pup from?

[TopDawG]

Originally posted by Rockwilda
i am in calgary alberta canada... we do not have any strictly rottweiler rescue around here that i know of...( let me know if anyone knows of one ) ...and i am definetely not wanting to become a back yard breeder ..its just that if i spay my dog there is no going back ...but then if i dont she is at a higher risk of cancer :(

Hi Rockwilda, I just went through many of these thoughts myself but ended up spaying my girl. Let me tell you I feel much better about it now that it's done (about 10 days ago). I'm not sure if many people have these thoughts or not but you are right it's a permanent decision. most of the people I know in RL actually advised me to not spay her (I never posted my concerns here as I knew the obivous replies I would get)(and yes I had a breeding contract with this pup). The fact is breeding does take a lot of responsibility if you trully do care about a breed. I think I always knew what the right decision was it just took me some time to make it.

Out of curiosity if you dont want to post it, then if you could PM me the pedigree I would like to read it, as both of my girls parents were brought here from Calgary so I'm curious to see if they have any of the same lineage.

good luck with your decision, I know I didn't feel better till I saw her come to at the vet's office the next day bum a giggling and a wiggling then went and hopped into the van :p but the second I saw her I knew I made the right choice.

~TD

[LORHEL]

Originally posted by TopDawG
Hi Rockwilda, I just went through many of these thoughts myself but ended up spaying my girl. Let me tell you I feel much better about it now that it's done (about 10 days ago). I'm not sure if many people have these thoughts or not but you are right it's a permanent decision. most of the people I know in RL actually advised me to not spay her (I never posted my concerns here as I knew the obivous replies I would get)(and yes I had a breeding contract with this pup). The fact is breeding does take a lot of responsibility if you trully do care about a breed. I think I always knew what the right decision was it just took me some time to make it.


good luck with your decision, I know I didn't feel better till I saw her come to at the vet's office the next day bum a giggling and a wiggling then went and hopped into the van :p but the second I saw her I knew I made the right choice.

~TD

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Excellent advice, you did the right thing, and I hope you have many happy years together with your rottie girl. :)